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I find it chilling that there are people willing to justify collective punishment in this day and age. Part of the siege's aim is to impose economic hardship on ordinary Gazans. The suffering of those dependant on food aid is a direct result. One of the most unpleasant aspects of the Israeli occupat...

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Haaretz have some more info about the lad - his name is Lucas and he's from Philadelphia, apparently. ... Israel Police claims the young man attacked and bit an officer - however, the video does not show Lucas provoking any officers. It shows a group of policemen forcing him to the ground and handcu...

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Shocking stuff drew - thanks for posting. I didn't realise things could be that bad! Atrocious - even one of these schools is bad enough, and I wouldn't be surprised if these weren't isolated examples. Wow. (The best schools in Pakistan do churn out well educated people, but they aren't representati...

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Did he say at 1:26 ‘and grab this nigger with fruits and bananas and say hey buddy hey, there you go buddy, there you go with your big bright red arse’ well there’s evidence if it were ever needed! :shock: Dave said 'bribe..with fruit and bananas' not 'grab...' Still wondering what the OP link was ...

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Interesting thread. The journalist asks: If we are talking about universal justice and legality, why are the conquests of Istanbul, Trabzon and Anatolia by the Turks, and of Jerusalem by Ayyubi good; but the repatriation of Jerusalem to Israel by re-conquest bad? Especially when the re-conquest was ...

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Well, let's not forget that Israel captured territory in 1948 and that this land they are being allowed to keep that. Israel went from 55% of Palestine to the 78% of Palestine. (Palestine being a well defined territory under the British Mandate). UN resolution 242 explicitly states that Israel canno...

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^Caps - next time try reading what you quote! ;) I'm not saying that Israel should give up the 78% of Palestine - just that it should honour international law and give up the military occupation of the 22% (i.e. the land conquered in 1967). I'm amazed at how many people are willing to justify, or ev...

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Ahh, it now becomes clear why the propaganda about Gaza not being so bad after all was ressurected this week. This report from the BBC is about the UN describing the actual situation in Gaza - (using facts and statistics note, ;) ). So it looks suspiciously like a pre-emptive propaganda strike was a...

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If it walks like a duck...

(But perhaps it is just a fortuitous coincidence... a day before a UN report on Gaza is featured in the media, we get 'All's well in Gaza' thread... hmmm)

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^You're quite the cunning linguist aren't you benwj!

Cheers,
Shafique

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Camel Toe is only a recently used slang term, popularized by series such as The Ali G show and South Park, before that no-one ever used it. Plus you rarely hear it used now either. Well, before I watched 'The Weather Man' I hadn't heard of it either - but that film was released in 2005. (Chocs - in...

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Sure thing. Israel's military knew it was far superior than the surrounding countries - and told the Israeli government this. Then Israel launched an attack on Egypt on the pretext that Nasser had restricted shipping. Then it spent a few decades spinning a story about how it was a 'defensive war' an...

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Thanks for sharing your impartial view herve.

Now, coming back to international law and UN resolutions, do you have anything to add on these points, or do you just think that Israel shouldn't have to follow the rule of law because you hate Muslims and Arabs?

Cheers,
Shafique

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^I call it watching a Nicholas Cage/Michael Caine movie myself.

But don't let little things like facts get in the way of your views, will you now.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Well, we seem to be making some progress now. No one disputes that Israel is breaking international law when it annexed Syrian Golan and East Jersusalem (after renaming parts of the West Bank 'East Jersusalem' first). No one disputes that UN resolution 242 says that it is not allowed to gain territo...

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It will be interesting to see the numbers underlying the statistics. But there does seem to be a problem with anti-semitism in at least one university (in addition to high schools) - what is interesting is that the problem is not from Muslim Norwegian students but from the non-Muslims: ANTISEMITISM ...

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Given that Norway's anti-semitism is primarily from non-Muslim, non-immigrant Norwegians - at least according to the quote above from a victim of anti-semitism - does this not raise the question whether immigrants who attack Jews are just 'integrating' and picking up on bad European practices? Whoev...

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shafique wrote:But, let me know if anyone provides any evidence that contradicts the highlighted quote above about anti-semitism in Norway (that it is a problem caused by 'ethnic' Norwegians, and not immigrants).

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Shafique

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From 2009, Jerusalem post: And what of the original question of anti-Semitism in Norway? In the wake of our articles, other Norwegian Jews have contacted the Post and related their experiences of living in the country. In general, they say, Norway does not suffer from widespread anti-Semitism. Norwe...

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Hmm. I managed to track down the report. There were only 36 Jewish students in the survey and 1179 Muslim students. Therefore only 12 Jewish students experience anti-semitism (and 24 didn't) and 62 Muslim students experienced Islamophobia, but many more didn't. http://www.utdanningsetaten.oslo.kommu...

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So, let's recap the facts so far: Interestingly she says she has rarely experienced antisemitism from Muslims. The perpetrators are as a rule ethnic Norwegians. and In general, they say, Norway does not suffer from widespread anti-Semitism. Norwegian Jews are an accepted and respected part of the co...

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I continue to be amazed by what I call 'loon logic'. Jews in Norway say 'anti-semitism is rare' and when it occurs it is mostly from ethnic Norwegians. In a survey of 5000 students (who responded), 12 Jewish students reported 'harrassment' and 62 Muslims students the same. These are the facts. The s...

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A couple of videos -first showing situation in Gaza, second of a student in Canada raising awareness of a Canadian boat to Gaza:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0T3jMRNwV8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gQGd4lLU4s

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Whilst we wait for any new (real rather than imagined) evidence, this is appropriate:

dubai-politics-talk/handy-guide-for-posters-perspective-t44200.html

Cheers,
Shafique

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Norway and UK are clearly marked.

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Shafique

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I would presume that all on the Gaza flotilla will be aware of the situation in Gaza.

Where they go next (Tibet, Zimbabwe, Congo etc) is a matter of speculation and personal interest ... unless of course it is a weak 'what aboutery' argument.

Cheers,
Shafique

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12 Jewish students out of 36 in a survey reported being harrassed. In the same survey 62 Muslim students also reported the same. I refer the readers to the previous posts about perspective. To save future embarrassment, I would suggest that posters wishing to use statistics to just double check thei...

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Curious - if most of the 1000+ Muslim students in the Norwegian survey were anti-semitic, how come only 12 Jewish students reported facing harrassment, compared to the 62 Muslim students facing harrassment. Perhaps it is because the Norwegian Jews are correct when they told Jerusalem Post that: In g...

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Beliefs and excuses, no evidence! :roll: When Jerusalem Post has to publish a retraction after Norwegian Jews corrected some misinformation and state: In general, they say, Norway does not suffer from widespread anti-Semitism. Norwegian Jews are an accepted and respected part of the country. ..it ta...

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LOL - full marks for persistence. 12 Jewish students and 62 Muslim students report facing harrassment in a survey of over 5000 Norwegian students, and you seem fixated on the spin in the OP (which omited these numbers). I'll stick with the experience of Norwegian Jews as reported by Jerusalem Post- ...

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