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^So, gertrude's argument is that the watchers of strippers are the perverts and that Arab men are enthusiastic consumers of the services of strippers. No arguments there. But it seems a bit rich (and illogical) to me that the suppliers of the service are let off scott-free. Are drug-dealers really j...

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Yes, the universal threat is 'very low' for individuals in the UK according to the HO quote - and in terms of numbers, actual terrorist attacks by Muslim terrorists in the UK are swamped by the 99 actual terrorist attacks last year by non-Muslim terrorists. How we interpret these facts is a differen...

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I'm sure you're right - I wasn't aware I was arguing otherwise. My point was more that I'm not sure that the suppliers are blameless in all this. ;) My personal view is that we should (as parents and individuals) tackle the consumer part of the problem - and that is where personal morality comes int...

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Interesting belief there. For me though - 99 actual terrorist attacks from non-Muslims in the UK last year seems to be a bigger threat than the 0 (?) from Muslims, but hey - each is entitled to their 'analysis'. ;) On the re-vamped policy - whilst I agree with the overall aim, I'm not too sure about...

shafique

99 actual terror attacks by non-Muslims in the UK is hardly something that can be spun. Neither is the number of actual terror attacks by Muslims in the same period (possible as low as zero). But - trying to spin my comment about enlisting healthcare workers as something else! It is either an epic f...

shafique

Dillon - yes I mean the 99 terror attacks carried out by non-Muslims in the UK.

I'm not counting the terror attacks that took place outside the UK.

Now, what was the equivalent number of terror attacks in the UK carried out by Muslims? Was there even one?

Cheers,
Shafique

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You'd have thought the fanbois would have kept quiet about this PR fiasco - the spin was laughable at the time (it would have been hilarious but for the fact the 'Pirates of the Med' shot and killed so many people). But that said, it gives me an excuse to reel out one of the funny descriptions of th...

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I, unlike herve, am not confused of the territorial boundaries of the UK. ;) The 99 terror attacks carried out by non-Muslims within the UK last year didn't occur in the Shetlands, Orkneys, Isle of Wight or indeed Surrey - but it did take place in the UK. The terror attacks (if any) by Muslims in th...

shafique

^I didn't expect you'd read it Bora - your loss, it is quite funny.

But at least we're on the same page when it comes the conspiracy theory in the OP.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

You could break it down by street if you wish. No terror attacks by Muslims or non-Muslims in my street in Surrey. ;) However, I was looking at the UK as a whole. And when we do that, we find: 99 terror attacks by non-Muslims, vs 0? by Muslims over the same period. (But if you want to break it down ...

shafique

Berrin, again - the 99 real terror acts aren't 'my statistics' but the official police statistics. I am still waiting for the equivalent number of real terror acts by muslims. :D :D Cheers, Shafique -- Sat Jun 11, 2011 1:56 pm -- @Bora - the 99 terror attacks by non-Muslims in the UK include those t...

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Which statistics am I excluding? I'm agreeing with you, we SHOULD indeed include the statistics relating to terror attacks by Muslims that have been prevented. I'm not the one who is saying 'believe me' - I'm the one saying 'here are the statistics for terrorism in the UK by non-Muslims, let's compa...

shafique

My plan is to do the best I can for myself and my children, and to 'walk the talk', as it were. I'm a firm believer in creating a home environment which is a 'paradise' and within which we are all comfortable and where kindness, love, morality, justice is practiced and taught. I believe it starts wi...

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Hey, if statistics are produced that show that there were more terrorist plots etc carried out by Muslims in the UK than the ones listed above, then yes - I'll happily concede that the statistics show that Muslim terrorists are a greater problem. I find it hard to dispute imaginary or 'possible' sta...

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Bora - sorry if I gave the impression that I was criticising other families, that wasn't my intention. I was just saying what we do (or strive to do, we are far from perfect), in response to your question. My view is that if all families instilled these values into their children and lived by them -...

shafique

A simple, 'I'm embarrassed to give you the equivalent number of actual terrorist attacks by Muslims in the same period' would have sufficed.

But if you do get the stats from MI5, let me know.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

LOL - perhaps your avatar confused your dear old friend?

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Shafique

shafique

For me, the fact that a naked or scantily-clad body is considered ok to be viewed by a non-intimate partner is a 'moral decay indicator'. It highlights the value (or lack of) society places on sensual pleasures - which include visual stimulation. I'm a bit 'old fashioned' - but I think the erotic pl...

shafique

There's a community in New York state (a place called New Square, one hour north of Times Square) which segregates men from women, the women aren't allowed to drive or walk on the same side of the street as the men. This is a highly religious community, but one where recently there has been some ser...

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It is an interesting story about a religious community which segregates women and has been in the news because of violence. Some people have commented on the story, others have chosen to criticise me for stating the fact that the community is in New York State, about an hour's drive from Times Squar...

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^He's probably reading the book by Ibn Khaldoun (History by Khaldoun, rather than of Khaldoun) - ;) .. by coincidence I'm reading two history books - one by Bill Bryson about the House (quite interesting, as it turns out) and another about Jersusalem by Simon Sebag Montefiore (a bit heavier, but sti...

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Thanks for the vid DDS - made my morning! LOL

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I think the 'sheltering' route is counter productive. (My personal opinion - it may work for some people) The Amish community do live pretty separate lives, but their children go out into the community and then decide whether to come back - during their time 'outside' they dress normally, drink etc ...

shafique

Excuses, excuses.

99 real terror attacks last year by non-Muslims... a lot of hot air, but no stats, about the Mooslim threat in the UK.

I'll believe the stats.. but others put more weight on 'ifs and buts'...

Cheers,
Shafique

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I don't think I mentioned any religion at all.

Why is this now about me? I didn't set anyone on fire. I did use the distance from Times Square, because that is what the journalist chose to give.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Huh? Again, why is this now about me? If someone posted a similar story about a different religious community in the US (or elsewhere) - would the comments be focused on the story or on the one posting the story? Nothing I've posted is contentious/misleading/untrue, is it? The story is about a commu...

shafique

Let's inject some humour:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K1KHqi9bXc

shafique

I think this deserves it's own thread - original comment from Mahmoud below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDjbTR8Br_w

Mahmoud04 wrote:
what happened! wow, what happens to freedom of speech, or morals that we keep hearing about...

shafique

I don't disagree with you. I understand you believe I am an anti-semite and hate Jews. However, I have more 'liberal' political views than the American Jewish guy you refer to when it comes to the Israeli occupation (he says he wants full right of return, for example). What I do hate, is deliberate ...

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