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Oh, I think that the US can claw it's way out of the recession - definitely. Greece was once a mighty empire, so was Portugal. Indeed, the biggest empire ever by land mass was Britain - and now look at it, full of former colonials who don't know their place (according to some, at least) ;) Russia is...

shafique

Well, let's see whether those who desperately want to believe the information in this supposed YouTube rant ever produce real evidence or admit that this was just a fabrication. I suspect we're more likely to see more smoke and mirrors, name calling and irrelevant threads before we see any evidence ...

shafique

I'm with TJ on this - people are being massacred, it is clearly not the will of the people that Ghadaffi stay on.. and indeed Obama is condemning the Libyan state actions. More than words are needed. Fisk, IIRC, draws a link between the US humiliation in Somalia (black-hawk down etc) with the genoci...

shafique

IIRC Libya was the chair for that council just a short while back - and there was some controversy over that fact. However, I may be thinking of some other council/committee that Libya was due to chair.

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Shafique

shafique

The loon hysteria is extremely funny. Sometimes I think that they may actually believe the hype - most other times I think they are just making things up to see how many gullible young Americans will believe the bible camp horror stories about Moooslims!

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Shafique

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Apologies Mahmoud, I didn't think you were denying the attacks. All sensible people around the world recognise that most Egyptians (and indeed all decent people, of all religions and none) would be appalled at this real crime AND by the lies made up about crimes that didn't take place. Your posts di...

shafique

:) Let's keep it simple. Is the random loon blogger's allegation on Youtube that Logan was gang raped, masturbated on etc anything a random loon fantasy that eh desperately wants to believe is true? Logan says she wasn't raped. eh and his dodgy video think differently. Simple. Reality vs loon fantas...

shafique

Yes, you're right - we could ignore the loon fantasies that eh presented as fact.

But why should we do that? Won't that just encourage him to make up more loon fantasies in future and present as fact?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

eh - this is your thread and you're the one who has posted supposed evidence about her being gang raped etc.

Will you join us in condemning the cynical lies if you can't, after all, provide any evidence that she was raped and abused as described by the Loon on Youtube?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Ok- I hope you live up to your promise: South African-born journalist Lara Logan has spoken about the “darkest nightmare” of her life - an attack by a wild bunch of Egyptian youths as she was preparing to file a live report for CNN from Cairo’s Tahrir Square last Friday evening. .. She said she had ...

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Bora - the real attack was horrific indeed, and I agree - the fact she wasn't physically raped is of little comfort to the victim. What is distasteful is that a rant on Youtube describing gang-rape, masturbation etc is presented here as fact and indeed, excuses are made that 'it hasn't been shown to...

shafique

Bora - what you think my shortcomings as a moderator are doesn't really change the fact eh posted a malicious lie and presented it as fact. I let slide many a distasteful joke - from racist to se.xist etc. But I don't tolerate lies presented as truth. (Nor do I let posts about politics reside in a f...

shafique

Always happy to clarify where my values lie. I thought I was quite clear in my first post in this thread: If there is indeed video footage of this crime (as described) then the 'bearded' rapist and other rapists should be captured and punished. However, let's wait and see whether this is a real desc...

shafique

Loons caught out in a lie, and now it is my fault. Classic.

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Shafique

shafique

I'm waiting for eh to acknowledge the lies and apologise. No need for smokescreens to mask the fact he hasn't done so yet.

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Shafique

shafique

If you think so.

One issue at a time Bora. Focus.

Loon lie exposed. Loon apology expected. When it comes, we can address your other issues.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

^Well, if the youtube loon has some evidence that his rant is more accurate than Logan's quote above, let's see it. I'm still quite prepared to apologise if the loon rant turns out to be true. Until then, I have one report from South Africa quoting Logan saying she wasn't raped and a loon rant on Yo...

shafique

If you want to focus on something else - fine. I'm focusing on whether the loon rant on Youtube presented as fact is indeed factual, or another loon fantasy. The fact Logan says in an interview she wasn't raped, is good enough evidence for me in the absence of anything that contradicts this. Cheers,...

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As I said, I'm satisfied with the report from Logan saying she wasn't raped - I'm asking for any evidence to back up the graphic description given by the loon on youtube (and which eh presented as fact).

Both can't be right.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Thanks.

I'd hate think what rant you'd post if I disagreed with you about these English gents being thick!

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Shafique

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[Mod- DDS don't pick fights with Dillon. If you disagree with his views, do it respectfully.]

shafique

I haven't claimed to be. I hope you are not trying to start a fight.

But I'm still entitled to call out undiplomatic comments when they arise. Interesting point is that you're choosing to comment on my post and not BM's.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I'm glad you had another look at the original article. I hope you also looked at the second article which gave the motivations of the White Supremacist groups that the FBI suspect are behind the bomb plot. My OP was quite clear that the perpetrators and their precise political motivations for the te...

shafique

I do think kudos is due to Mr Meyer. The shame is that he is labelled an anti-Semite for highlighting facts about the injustices carried out by Israel: Meyer, in an exclusive interview with The Bee, said he survived 12 years under Hitler and 10 months in Auschwitz. “I have a number on my arm and the...

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I've moved on from what labels to put on to these bomb plots. Did you not read through the whole of my post? I have no reason to second-guess the FBI - and I'm not going to re-write the two articles to remove references to terrorism. So, moving on. For the purposes of the non-labeling issues raised ...

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shafique

Indeed, Kaufman was lambasted - that was the point of me referring to it.

He was lambasted despite the fact what he says is true. He was labelled an anti-Semite for making a reasoned, factual speech.

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Shafique

shafique

Excellent - so let's move on. What are the other reasons for the different levels of coverages of 'bomb plots to designed to kill civilians' - this real one, and the fake one in the OP. There's an obvious reason to me - but let's see if there are more creative explanations out there. I'm especially ...

shafique

I couldn't find any anti-semitic comments in the excellent speech he made. Only facts and his reasoned conclusions. Did you listen to the whole speech, or are you just repeating the slurs that were made against him for this speech? You're not re-defining the term anti-semite are you, perchance? Chee...

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I posted the youtube video of Kaufman giving this speech from January 2009 in another thread. Given that some people may not have access to youtube, and not wanting to post this long extract in that thread - I thought I'd give the full text here. Powerful and factual - and yet he was slurred as an a...

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