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can people stop talking in the name of religions! Non of us 100% represent his religion, never heard of Jesus(PBUH) attacked another people based of their religion, and never hear of Muhammed (PBUH) has attacked a church... Excellent point. Indeed, it is worth recalling that excellent example set b...

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This now famous edition of Question Time from 2009 had the leader of the British National Party, Nick Griffin, on it. There was controversy about his appearance at the time, but in it he and his party's views were exposed and he was visibly squirming at many points (most noticeably when his own word...

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I hate to jump into the middle of an intimate conversation - but let me just say that the topic can be discussed by non-Brits too. The BNP leader denies the Holocaust, says one thing but believes another, considers Islam evil AND also has a problem with immigration. However, mostly they are racist a...

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Bora - I'm not sure whether the majority of Asian (in the sense the UK uses the term - i.e. brown/'indian' - not the US version = 'chinese') immigrants in the UK are from Pakistan - or that the immigrants with Pakistani heritage are the ones that the Islamophobes and racists have a particular proble...

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Oh dear, I'm now being accused of 'speaking with forked tongue', LOL. But hey, I don't mind people not taking my explanations at face value and checking out the references. Perhaps this article from the BBC will clarify it further (and note that the reference to Shilpa Shetty refers to when she was ...

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BM - you called me a liar when I explained the use of the term 'Paki' - you argued it is the same as 'Brit', but it isn't. Anyone who comes from the UK knows this - so it seems extremely silly of you to even take this line. Perhaps you realised you'd painted yourself into a corner? Now instead of fa...

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plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose ;) It makes me sick to the stomach when the halocaust is denied. My grandfather was the liberating sargeant major into Bergen-Belsen. Try telling him, when he was alive, there was no halocaust. He suffered for years afterwards about the many Jews he killed wi...

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^Berrin, BM says her father fed many of the victims in the liberated concentration camps, and this act of feeding killed the weakest of these victims of Hitler's attempt at a 'final solution'. That's a moving story to me - and why I too would condemn anyone who denies the Holocaust happens. It is al...

shafique

Thanks for the clarification TJ.

At least we agree it is a great presentation. It's just that in my experience, her explanations are indeed what most Muslims I know believe and try to get across - I fully concede that your experience may be different from mine.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Times are indeed a changing. There was a time when the press in the USA would happily regurgitate the spin of a plucky nation, bent on peace, surrounded by bloodthirsty Arab neighbours and with the most moral army in the world etc. Nowadays, the mask has slipped.. but what is clear to the LA Times a...

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As predicted, name calling. Granted that Berrin misread the quote I gave about your grandfather - and I perpetuated this error.. but the point was that your impassioned words were given when someone was ACCUSED of denying the Holocaust, but in this thread we have a guy who admits he denied the Holoc...

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The BBC reports that Baroness Warsi (who creamed the BNP leader Nick Griffin on Question Time), who happens to be Muslim and in the cabinet, says that prejudice against Muslims is seen as 'normal' by many in the UK. She makes some excellent points and seems to be doing a sterling job as co-chairman ...

shafique

^Here's the link to the LA Times piece.

http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld ... 8504.story

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Are you confusing the LA times for Nick Griffin?

LOL

As I predicted

shafique wrote: I'm sure that the substance of the report will not be addressed, but rather there will either be silence or the messenger(s) will be attacked.

Cheers,
Shafique

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LOL It really must make the BNP's blood boil to think that an English, Yorkshirewoman who happens to be Muslim is not only in Cabinet, but also in the House of Lords! But of course, they aren't racist - they just think the Baroness should renounce her citizenship and leave the country she was born i...

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Seems to be keeping you very unhappy. And you're right - this does make me smile a lot. Isn't it nice of the PM to want to keep 'us' guys happy and c.ock-a-snook at BNP supporters! Hilarious. (I think the Yorkshire lass is there on merit - and the way she demolished Nick Griffin shows her law backgr...

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I'm glad you're laughing at the threads - you're obviously upset that the Baroness happens to not be white or Christian.. and as you ask, yes she does look like an English lass from Dewsbury to me - and she certainly speaks like one! But your comprehension skills are letting you down again. A BNP su...

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^And pretty much everyone else reading your comments, I'd say!

Cheers,
Shafique

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All I did was ask:

shafique wrote:But surely you can't condone Nick Griffin's Holocaust denial?

Why all the hate and name calling? Imaginary what-about-ery arguments aren't going to fool anyone.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Yes, I have heard the expression. On Holocaust deniers - I've been consistent and agree with Hamas etc who all denounce people who hold the view Nick Griffin had. I would be embarrassed if I was caught out not denouncing a Holocaust denier. But that's just me. I think you're just ashamed to answer t...

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Further proof about the truth about who is in reality standing in the way of peace in Palestine. As shown in previous posts, the historic factual evidence is clear - ONLY the Palestinian side has made any concessions in regards to what it is legally entitled to. There has not been one, not one, conc...

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Oh dear, BM has been busted again. The above is from an article in Arutz Sheva: http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/141883 Perhaps it is because: Arutz Sheva (Hebrew: ערוץ שבע‎) (Channel Seven) is an Israeli media network identifying with Religious Zionism. .. The Israeli government has...

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I have to wonder whether BM actually read the snippets she cut and pasted above - but it is good to compare and contrast the evidence with the hype. Note that the two posts don't actually contradict the facts made clear in the OP. Perhaps third time is the charm BM? Want to try again? Cheers, Shafique

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Your threads about the Palestinian conflict were merged with the one that was started earlier today about the leaks (no need for 3 threads on the same subject to start on the same day). As for this thread - it is notable that no group has come out and taken credit for this heinous terrorist act. The...

shafique

Given that the Egyptians initially pointed the fingers at Mossad and you presumably didn't believe them when they did that.. I guess we can sum up your position as simply:

'guilty until proven non-Muslim'.

Cheers,
Shafique

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LOL It seems that either BM has had a crash course at the 'trawling the web for Mooslim stories' at eh's Bible Camp for Islamophobes. Either that or he's just feeding her snippets to post. But a fail is a fail. But Kudos to zubber for labelling a favoured technique of our resident 'all Mooslims are ...

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Zubber - let's face it, Arutz Sheva is hardly a source for logical, unbiased news is it? BM - pray tell, why are you quoting from a pro-Religious Zionist web site (and hiding the fact you are lifting text from it)? Is it because you agree with their extremist views that the colonies on Palestinian l...

shafique

As I predicted I'm sure that the substance of the report will not be addressed, but rather there will either be silence or the messenger(s) will be attacked. :roll: :mrgreen: So good to be proved right - but I should also have expected the smoke-screen posts/threads too. :bigsmurf: Cheers, Shafique

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^I couldn't resist reading - just to see whether FD addressed the substance of the OP or whether it would be another of his 'one sentence' specials. I was surprised to see it was a 2 sentence special... .but wasn't surprised that it had nothing to do with the LA Times assessment. ;) Cheers, Shafique

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