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Good Muslim can indeed have her hair uncovered - my wife has her's uncovered for most of the day and partly covered when going out/praying etc. By definition, a Muslim chooses to follow the rules of Islam - so dressing immodestly (applies to men as well), drinking alcohol and eating pork means one i...

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^Zubber -some clothing can affect some sports - I'm just asking whether this is the case here for competitive aerobics. Mel - in what way would a burqini (or similar) affect the performance? I understand the rules don't allow for less flesh showing - but it seems to me that the rules may be at fault...

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Hey Mel - you didn't tell us that there is an Iranian female aerobics team: http://www.irandokht.com/images/aerobic_4.jpg http://www.irandokht.com/images/aerobic_1.jpg They seem to have won a competition: http://www.irandokht.com/editorial/index4.php?area=wor&sectionID=31&editorialID=3080

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Curiouser and curiouser - a couple of years ago, a course for Aerobic Gymnastic Coaches was held in Tehran by the national coach of Iran ( a French former world champion, no less): Iran to organize an Aerobic Gymnastics Coaches course By Asian Gymnastics Union | Published 08/13/2008 | General News ,...

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The wife of Imam Rauf (he of the Park 51 cultural centre in Manhattan) is Daisy Khan - she has her own job and this is how she appears in public:

http://www.asmasociety.org/about/b_dkhan.html

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When you refer to Muslims and Jews having a choice of courts, I assume that the "certain issues" in question are of a very, very minor religious nature that does not impact society or the welfare of the individuals involved, as in the case of Catholic tribunals (courts). I think divorce a...

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Ok - cool, thanks for clarifying. Yes, it is a shame that the international competitions don't allow the Iranian aerobics team to take part in their usual competition wear. To me that seems to be an issue with the rule makers on the international side. As I tell my daughters - they should aspire to ...

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My wife just fell about laughing when I told her she has to obey me when it comes to what she wears.

Mel, have you heard the parable about the blind men and the elephant?

Cheers,
Shafique

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:D Is it a kindergarten where oppression is practise everyday as a way of life.... :) They don't yet have 'a demographic problem' yet! :mrgreen: (ps. I'm loving this 'foe' feature - it's a shame I hadn't discovered it earlier!) (pps - let me know if I have to moderate anything..) Cheers, Shafique

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Maytbe those whites who converted to Islam are not that proud! :D You make a good point Mel. Anyone who 'converts' (well the truth of the matter is that they were not practicing religion to begin with, so didn't actually convert as such) is somewhat lost and insecure beforehand. The choice of relig...

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^sym - I think you're being harsh, a genuine question was asked and I'm sure benjw will be embarrassed to find out he didn't register this fact that was in the quote. On family level - this is a tragedy and my commisserations to the friends and family of the man. To be in so much mental pain to reso...

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Grazzie!

Excellent stuff.

(BTW - zubber already started a thread about the blackberry sketch:
dubai-chat/bbc-parody-about-tech-t44633.html

Still - a very funny sketcy.. even second time round.

)

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^With all due respect Mel - it is a well known fact that Muslim women have the right to divorce in Islam - and I know that women in Iran exercise this right, so you really have no excuse to pretend otherwise. Divorce is certainly not a one-sided contract, neither in practice in Iran and neither in I...

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Mel - at least I resisted the temptation to state that the Shah's father was put into power by the Brits and Russians and then was forced to step down by the Brits so his more compliant 21 year old son could take over; and that Mossadegh was terminated by a CIA coup..... oops..;) Just kidding - rega...

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It's a long list from memory - and I recall that one of the conditions that Iranian women have used is that the man does not perform in bed. The other reasons are - after a quick search on the web: A wife who unluckily could not find herself to be in a peaceful wedlock with her husband and is desiro...

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^Women, in my experience, can blame men for pretty much any incident that goes wrong - so I'd serioiusly imagine that no woman who wants a divorce cannot find something on that list to initiate a divorce. Reality vs hypotheticals Mel - women in Iran and elsewhere exercise their right to divorce. In ...

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Mel - from my perspective you are exagerating and taking extreme cases to make your point. The bottom line is that Islam in theory and practice does give women the rights to divorce, and it is certainly not a a one-sided issue at all. You have to be very creative to come up with a scenario where a w...

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Hey Joe - welcome back. I'm on series 4 of Shameless now! The wife is now watching along as well.. good stuff. I agree that there are some who are converting to get married (I see this more with men though) - with the women they tend to convert first and then find someone to marry in my experience. ...

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Sorry Mel - the Quran is clear, women can ask for divorce. Current day reality is real - women ask for divorce. History shows that the Prophet granted divorce for the very reason you say Islam doesn't grant divorce (just not liking the dude). We have Quran agreeing with practice agreeing with histor...

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You're repeating yourself, so allow me to state again the simple facts as I see it: 1. Islam allows women right of divorce 2. There is a long list of reasons given 3. the Prophet, pbuh, allowed the wife of Thabit bin Qais (Qays) to divorce her husband for explicitly no fault (reported in multiple bo...

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Mel: Let's agree to disagree on this point - I've nothing to add to my last post.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Berrin, can you reconcile this paragraph: If a woman wants to divorce, it is necessary that her husband give her the right to divorce. If a married woman wants to divorce and her husband does not divorce her, the families can choose an arbitration committee and the divorce can be realized. And the c...

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Thanks Berrin. However, the Hadith and commentaries are pretty clear that Thabit was a Muslim (and a practicing one at that). If you look up at the Abu Dawud version you will see that that more clearly.

Cheers,
Shafique

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I found this article in 'the Saudi gazette' and it mentions this hadith - but also the conclusion: A study of these traditions brings to light certain facts about Khula. One, if a woman dislikes her husband , and as a result fears that the couple might not be able to keep within the bounds set by Al...

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In what most people will treat as welcome and heart-warming news, Egyptian Muslims have shown their solidarity with their Christian fellow citizens and attended the Coptic Christmas mass to act as human shields - and express solidarity with the Christians against the terrorist attacks against them. ...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AtY1Frt ... _embedded#!

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The Israeli Military Occupation of the West Bank claimed it's latest civilian casualty when a 67 year old civilian was shot dead in his bed in a bungled raid in Hebron. In one of the understatements of the year, the IDF say it was a mistake. :shock: Reports say he was shot 7 times in the upper body....

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^LOL - major SOH failure!

BM - You're not Alf Garnet's love child by any chance are you?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOhXpmozpbE

and

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWKy4RHf ... re=related

Cheers,
Shafique

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Arabs living to the West of the 1967 green line are living in Israel - so are Israelis. Those living to the East, are either living in East Jerusalem proper, or what was part of the West Bank before Israel unilaterally (and illegally) renamed parts of the West Bank as 'East Jerusalem' and annexed it...

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