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LOL - eh that's a new one on me. The Quran I have doesn't say it is ok for me to kill my kids if they disobey me. Mel - as for ancient pre-Islamic Persia - they had some inventive ways of executing people (please excuse going slightly off topic): Scaphism, also known as the boats, was an ancient Per...

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Really? Any parent can kill their child because they 'turn rebellious'. :roll: (A strange reaction to the Bible saying that a child swearing at their parents should be killed - 10/10 for inventiveness though - but note I just quoted the verse from Exodus in full.) I have a bridge to sell - are you i...

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LOL - nice one eh. Still no quote from the Quran I see. You're setting yourself up for yet another epic fail.

What's the matter.. is JihadWatch down right now?

Cheers,
Shafique

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I think racism is something we can overcome and we are not born racist. In my extended family we have white, black, Arab, Indian and even chinese people - and we've tried to ensure that racism in our kids is not 'ingrained' or 'learnt from parents'. Mixing with other races in schools etc is the best...

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^Does the Universal Declaration of Human Rights allow for capital punishments? (Serious question - not sure of the answer). {Edit: Amnesty International argues that it does: The death penalty is the ultimate denial of human rights. It is the premeditated and cold-blooded killing of a human being by ...

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^Yes Mel - as I said it was off topic - but I would classify scaphism as a punishment, and I'd say it is worse than stoning as a means of execution! Are you sure that the Persians didn't chop off hands? What was the punishment for persistent theives (serious question)?

Cheers,
Shafique

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What was the punishment for persistent theives (serious question)? prison! which u can not find in islamic rules! because they used to live in tents and they didnt have prison! they just could kill or lash! :D that s the super funny part of islamic punishments! [/quote] Excellent - where can I look...

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Oops, I almost forgot - the Quran itself talks about God revealing the eye-for-an-eye law to the Jews: And We ordained therein for them : "Life for life, eye for eye, nose for nose, ear for ear, tooth for tooth, and wounds equal for equal." But if anyone remits the retaliation by way of ch...

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^There are cultural practices which do fall outside the tenets/teachings of Islam (which aren't forbidden or alternatively aren't a requirement either). If the religion of Islam does not require a certain practice (such as FGM) then it can't be termed Islamic. I think that's an easy test of logic to...

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I don't believe it!

Crazeee news.

What were/are they thinking???

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^ see the edit I just posted above. FGM is not halal: Muslim scholars rule female circumcision un-Islamic November 24, 2006 - 11:31AM A Egyptian conference of Muslim scholars from around the world declared female circumcision to be contrary to Islam and an attack on women, and called today for those...

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Agreed. But many Muslims also confuse cultural practices for religous ones too - but mostly it is easy enough to tell them apart. Many Muslims from the Indian sub-continent, for example, will follow some customs that are Indian/Hindu based - such as certain wedding rituals (Mehendi, 'chowtari') - th...

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Yes, as I pointed out in the other thread though - the 99% of terrorist acts carried out by Non-Muslims include major bombs that did kill people and were intended to kill mass casualties - just look at the two examples of ETA bombings in Spain on 29 and 30 July 2010. http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai...

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I read it the first time. That just goes to show that the proportions of the numpties that get caught/entraapped etc. The stats about the actual terrorist attacks still stand - 99% are not from Muslim terrorists. Verdicts vs actual attacks. Given that there were more than one verdict per trial, we s...

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You're having a laugh aren't you? eh - you claimed that the Quran says a parent can kill a rebellious child. You've failed (again) to back up this outrageous claim. Exodus is clear - a child cursing their parent should be killed. Quite unambiguous wording - and a verse that quite rightly should not ...

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Did you even read the chapter eh? The incident being referred to is an encounter Moses had. I'm sure even you learnt about Moses in Bible class. And, more to the point, no where does it say a parent can kill a child for insolence. sigh. (In any case, 18:60 onwards is recounting a spiritual journey o...

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LOL. Must try harder, eh, must try harder. You really are fooling no one with your fantastical interpretation to try and cover up the fact that Exodus does actually say a child cursing their parent should be killed! I can't believe you're still arguing with a straight face that: "Quran says it ...

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[Mod: Moved to Religion forum due to subject matter being mostly about scriptural issues]

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The Bible contains many grisly and violent passages that everyone agrees these days should be ignored as instructions. Most Christians would actually denounce the war crimes described in the Bible - such as the wholesale slaughter of captured people (only sparing the virgins for the captors). For ex...

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^Good on you Chocs! I agree - the honour killing thing is cultural and certainly not condoned by any religion. Honour killings also occur in Christian, Sikh and Hindu families Just to be a bit pedandtic: I would dispute that the majority of the over 1 billion Muslim parents would kill their child (o...

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Happy new year to one and all from me as well. (A bit of trivia - when I was a kid our car broke down and we were given a lift home by a kind driver who was passing by. It was Dave Allen! Top guy. I also didn't realise he had half a finger missing until he used it in a punch-line in a joke once - I ...

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It is sad that whilst normal people of all religious and non-religous persuasions are saddened by these terrorist attacks, a vocal minority of people seem to have so much hate that they can hardly contain their glee when an attack which ties in with their twisted views occurs (and are noticeably sil...

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Oh dear. I hope that the Christians in Romania consult our resident Biblical expert here for the proper procedure to conduct witch trials: http://www.dubaiforums.com/dubai-politics-talk/witch-trials-biblical-etiquette-t43919.html Apparently the African pastors who do conduct witch trials (and kill s...

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Some encouraging news out of Palestine - the PM president states that peace within two months is possible and he is willing to sit down with the Israelis to hammer this out. The diplomatic pressure is building on Israel to back up her usual rhetoric with concrete actions. Abbas: Israeli-Palestinian ...

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But at least Berrin has acknowledged that Muslims should not ignore the passage in the Koran where honor killing is rationalized for us by Allah. What is honour killing? and where is it in the quran that instructs parents kill children due to this effect? It isn't in the Quran - but eh (who hasn't ...

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^Isn't this a classic 'what about-ery' argument that also relies on a selective quote and a fantastical interpretation? Wow - that's a TRIPLE Islamophobic whammy!! Taking an allegorical passage about Moses (who doesn't do the killing in the allegory), trying to fantastically interpret it ... and all...

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I think this news is what is causing some of the consternation amongst the fans of Israel's military occupation, and others who just like to bash Muslims and don't give a f-f which territories are occupied and which are Israel proper :shock: . Note the usual sequence of events - positive news on the...

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LOL

Rabbi makes a racist ruling - and fanboi only chooses to comment on a cartoon joke. Classic tactic - but an epic fail.

Almost deserves a double face palm.

(BTW Bethsmum - I prefer the traditional spelling of Jose - 'Hosay' is a bit chav)

Cheers,
Shafique

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Interesting that this thread is about US soldiers committing killings in Afghanistan, and yet the objections being raised are to a descriptive term used by the US military I used to express my sympathy for the lower ranks. Hmm. BM - What's the ma'er luv, feeling a bit insecure? Sticks and stones ......

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Hi Shoukat, Good luck in your career. There is certainly some work for Magicians in Dubai - but I have to agree with DDS above, the work is seasonal and you'll be competing with younger magicians from the UK (predominantly) for corporate gigs. There are at least two working magicians in Dubai: http:...

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