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^and they get treated with kid gloves. My observation is that rhetoric by generals is pretty much universal. And indeed, it may actually be inversely proportional to actual killings. In John Pilger's documentary about the war you don't see (see recent thread) he has a quote there which says that int...

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^A few Muslim countries have this innovation when it comes to apostacy (the Quran doesn't give this punishment, and even refers to people joining and leaving Islam to cause trouble - and no punishment for these guys) - and the Quran clearly states there's no compulsion in religion too! The conversio...

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^I'd say taking off an abaya and uncovering one's hair would count as 'relaxing' - from what my wife tells me, it is usually the clothes and hairstyles that the ladies want to flaunt when among other ladies... so to take more off sort of defeats this point... but hey, I've only my wife's word for th...

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As I said, I don't consider the provisional IRA terrorists as religious terrorists - but would say their goals are political. They are still terrorists who just happen to be Catholic. Eric Rudolph and Baruch Goldstein carried out terrorist acts based on their religious interpretation of their respec...

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This one does look like a bona-fide religously motivated terrorist attempt - good on the Danes for foiling this one. They had real guns and ammo from the initial reports. As herve rightly points out though, the Europol stats do show that religously motivated terrorist attacks by Muslims are less tha...

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shafique wrote:So eh - are you among the one in five Americans who believe Obama is a Muslim?

I do believe that eh has yet to enlighten us on this question.

Surely he is not ashamed to answer? Hmm.

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Shafique

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Israel's defence minister, Ehud Barak, agrees with the Rabbi - saying that the racist letters would lead to a wave of racism: Barak: Anti-Arab letters by rabbis and rabbis’ wives leading Israel into dark place During the last month, several letters have been published urging Jews not to date, lease ...

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I was soooo resisting the lumberjack refs... but darnit, DK's done it now...

#he's a lumberjack and he's ok - he... #

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Shafique

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In what way did I manipulate the Europol statistics? But you are right, people should not just take my summary or views - after all, I'm just someone who posts on a forum and expresses his views. I suggest, though, that Europol's (i.e. EU wide police organisation) own conclusion should carry some we...

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Iranian court: Man to lose eye, ear In a literal interpretation of its eye-for-an eye law , an Iranian court orders a man to lose an eye and part of an ear. Now, remind me again where the phrase 'eye for an eye' comes from? Is it not a Biblical commandment? And as al-Jazeera reports (but eh doesn't...

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On reflection, should we not look at the relative chances of an Arab in each group of being killed by an Israeli vs being killed by another Arab? So, the total Palestians killed by Israel should be divided by the number of Palestinians in the territories (this gives the relative chance of being kill...

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How are they distorted? The Europol report's conclusion is based on the stats in their report - they say that the perception that Islamist terrorism is the main threat is not supported by evidence. That is their conclusion (and I highlighted it in red for you). Have Europol published new stats that ...

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Did you mean that the Canadians in the UAE don't look like this: http://www.sheppardsoftware.com/images/Canada/factfile/Inuit_women_1907.jpg Or were you thinking that they don't look like this: .. :mrgreen: Is that a Filipino or a Thai in the top pic? Neither - she's Canadian, and so were all her a...

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Herve - you made an allegation that the Europol statistics I quoted were 'distorted'. I quoted their conclusions based on the same statistics (which I quoted without manipulation in any way). I'm asking whether you have any evidence that the statistical evidence which shows that the PERCEPTION of Is...

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Yes, I support Israel's right to exist. I have personal friends who are Israeli - both Jewish and Arab. My point of view is quite simple - Israel should abide by UN resolutions and should take up the Arab peace plan of 2000 (two state solution based on 1967 green line, limited land exchange, East Je...

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Ok - I'm just quoting the EU wide police report's conclusions based on the evidence they published. You'll excuse me if I put more reliance on actual statistics (backed up by what has happened this month in terms of terrorist attacks - Islamist vs non-Islamist), than on hear say. Europol's conclusio...

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What you seem to be saying Herve is that counting ALL terrorist attacks distorts the statistics. :roll: ?? This quite a strange argument - but at least we are now clear that I have just quoted what the EU police force has reported and have concluded. We see that they say separatist terrorists are th...

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I think it's time for a refresher on perspective.

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^ Very droll! I like it. I see that the BBC have now picked up the story: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-12088449 It says it is in retaliation for the landing rights issue, and there is a loophole for visitors who fly in on Emirates or Etihad - the fees is only $72.50 for a 30 day visit v...

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So, Europol's conclusion based on actual terrorist attacks is 'misleading' because they rightly point out that the perception and reality are different? Hmm. Let's re-read what the experts (not bloggers) concluded: Islamist terrorism is still perceived as being the biggest threat worldwide, despite ...

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Bump - as this is now being accused of being 'misleading' for apparently counting all the terrorist attacks (bombings etc) that non-Muslims undertook in EU. :roll: Here's the commentary on the report in the OP -still relevant today: Perception is not reality. Due to the right wing’s influence and pr...

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Facts? Statistics? vs Perception? . Of course, the reality is that there are other groups that engage in terrorism on a much larger scale, yet these terrorist incidents are minimized. Acts of terrorism committed by Muslims are purposefully sensationalized and focused upon, culminating in the idea th...

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Perception: http://fox-hound.us/misc/garbage-burning-sm.jpg Separatists Reality: http://i.telegraph.co.uk/telegraph/multimedia/archive/01452/spain_1452253c.jpg ETA bomb in July 2009: The blast at the rear of the civil guard barracks in Burgos, northern Spain, caused significant damage to the 14-stor...

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No, I'm comparing your cartoon for separatist attacks vs the reality of the separatist attacks in Spain (to match the photo of a terror attack in Spain). Separatists remain the main threat in Europe. Their bombs kill - and are aimed to kill - not dustbin fires. Epic fail on your part. Again. Cheers,...

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Cables vs Statistics listing the attacks and a clear conclusion.

You're right though - one of them is wrong.

Cheers,
Shafique

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One of them is wrong. I've no evidence that the statistics are missing loads of Islamist terror attacks that were kept secret, or that they invented the real bomb blasts carried out by ETA etc. When in doubt, I trust the evidence over the perceptions/marketing/hype. But that is just me. It won't be ...

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My clock is working fine.

Kanelli's questions though were about scriptural references - and are quite valid, given that the OP starts with a sciptural reference.

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Shafique

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Hey, I've been called worse things than arrogant - but as I said, either Europol is wrong or the wikileak cable is wrong. It is a choice - I'm going with the one with the evidence and the conclusions based on evidence. As I said, provide new evidence and I promise I'll reconsider my views. Cheers, S...

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The Quran gives maximum and minimum punishments for crimes. The verse in particular actually states that the punishment should not exceed the crime (which is indeed what the intention of eye-for-eye in the Bible is) and also states that forgiveness is also a valid option. I do believe that this is a...

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The Bible and Quran do give maximum punishments for crimes that are quite horrific and for crimes which some may consider trivial. Eg. Exodus 21:15, 17 (King James Version) 15And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death. 17And he that curseth his father, or his mother,...

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Re: Iran: Kill, Kill And Kill

Re: Coptic Wives - Seek Refuge In Islam

Re: Rabbi: Israel's Pit Of Racism

Re: Islamists Make Obama An Offer He Can't Refuse

Re: Denmark 'foils Terror Attack'

Re: Islamists Make Obama An Offer He Can't Refuse

Re: Rabbi: Israel's pit of racism

Re: Canadians Obviously Not Wanted Here..

Re: Denmark 'foils Terror Attack'

Re: Man To Lose His Eye And Ear - Based On The Koran

Re: Palestinians/Arabs killed

Re: Denmark 'foils Terror Attack'

Re: Canadians obviously not wanted here..

Re: Denmark 'foils Terror Attack'

Re: Palestinians/Arabs Killed

Re: Denmark 'foils Terror Attack'

Re: Denmark 'foils terror attack'

Re: Handy Guide for Posters: Perspective

Re: Canadians Obviously Not Wanted Here..

Re: Denmark 'foils Terror Attack'

Re: Terrorism in EU - the facts

Re: Denmark 'foils Terror Attack'

Re: Denmark 'foils terror attack'

Re: Denmark 'foils Terror Attack'

Re: Terrorism In EU - The Facts

Re: Terrorism In EU - The Facts

Re: Man To Lose His Eye And Ear - Based On The Koran

Re: Terrorism In EU - The Facts

Re: Man to lose his eye and ear - based on the Koran

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