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well said Kanelli - agree with you 100%.

cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Nicaragua to ban ALL abortions!
Replies: 14
Views: 1944

So Shafique, you are assuming that rape is high in those countries because women don't cover every inch of skin except hands, feet and face? Kanelli - I only posted the stats as you said that nudity was not a big issue in Finland, which led to women not being objectified: "These kinds of cultu...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

I grew up playing with mostly boys on my street when I was a child, I lived on a co-ed floor in university residence where everything was shared, including the common bathroom, and I have always been free to dress how I like. I have never been raped. If women are in such danger if not covered from ...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

John Howard is very specific over how people coming and residing in Australia should indegrate into the Aussie way of life, basically it's the Aussie way or get out! Many locals here are allowed to say that to people coming to the UAE, so why should another country not have the same policy? The guy...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

Shaf, A few points regarding your reply to my post. First off if the guy can hardly speak English, then what is he doing residing in Australia in the first place? Aren't all immigrants expected to show proficiency in the English language? Yes they are. Secondly he described women who do not wear he...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

The cleric didn't incite attacks. He just gave the men a good mental justification for if they do decide to rape a woman who was not covering up. He also lets the women know that they should keep their mouths shut and don't complain if they are raped because it was their fault for not covering up. ...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

That is true for the most part, but in so many cases of rape it happens because the two people were drunk and fooling around and the guy goes too far. Some date rapes are definitely about power, and marital rape and rape committed by strangers who suddenly attack a woman in her home or in a public ...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

Mr & Mrs - A friend of mine is considering voting for the BNP, as long as they promise to pay for his flight back home (he's thinking of retiring back to Mauritius - so he wouldn't mind the flights paid for).

:)

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Do you vote.
Replies: 15
Views: 2125

A huge percentage of rapes are date rapes and it happens when both parties are drunk. The Nordic countries have a huge drinking culture. It is not disrespect that causes these rapes, it is miscommunication because neither person has enough control over their faculties. The Japanese don't drink as m...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

sorry, I couldn't resist a search. The WHO have country stats of alcohol consumption from the 1960s to 2001 at : http://www3.who.int/whosis/alcohol/alcohol_apc_data.cfm?path=whosis,alcohol,alcohol_apc,alcohol_apc_data&language=english In 2001, Finland consumed 10.43 litres per head, to Japan's 7...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

Many people view homos.ex.uality as a deviancy - for them it is as distasteful as paedophillia. Religions have taught from time immemorial that humans were created to be social animals and live in family units. Man laying with man is a sin - i.e. against the will of God. Paedophiles also say they ar...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: IT'S OK TO KILL GAYS - in "UK"
Replies: 51
Views: 5951

Regardless, his comments were still offensive and incitful, if you condone that, then sorry to say there's something very wrong with you. The comments were offensive yes. But how were they inciting anyone to violence/rape? Are you saying that his congregation heard him whilst fasting and thought - ...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

They have been accusing him of that! Did you not read the direct quote I posted earlier from what he said? Go back and read it again and tell me how this is not giving the grren light as you put it, to give men an excuse to harrass or assault women. Green light to whom Chocs? Do you really think th...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

The apology: In a statement released on Thursday, Sheikh Hilali said he had been quoting another, unnamed, source and did not mean his words to condone rape. "I unreservedly apologise to any woman who is offended by my comments. I had only intended to protect women's honour," the statement...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

Yes I have read the apology, and if it is heart felt and genuine, then fine. However he should have known better, than to say such things in the first place. Did the Pope's words and sermon also get taken wrongly and out of context? I think they did! Excellent - we agree then. I accepted the Pope's...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

It depends what you mean by a 'few leaders'. The Bible is crystal clear about man laying with man as being a sin, and all churches condemn the act as a sin. The loophole some western churches have found is that they say it is ok to be a homos.e.x.ual but not to engage in the act. All the Christians,...
by shafique
Oct 29, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: IT'S OK TO KILL GAYS - in "UK"
Replies: 51
Views: 5951

Going on a slight tangent, but maybe religious leaders should leanr a little something from the music industry. Rapper Eminem is well known for talking about shooting people, inciting violence and being homophobic, but he says, 'I might rap about killing people, but it doesn't mean I'd actually do ...
by shafique
Oct 30, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

You can research this for yourself, but most rape cases are reportedly being committed by 'foreignors' from Muslim countries. Two out of three charged with rape in Norway's capital are immigrants with a non-western background according to a police study. The number of rape cases is also rising stea...
by shafique
Oct 30, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

The message of the cleric was that the cats can't be faulted for eating the uncovered meat. So yes, the cleric was implying that men are like cats and can't help but eat the uncovered meat - so they can't be faulted. It also implies that women who have not covered themselves should expect to be fed...
by shafique
Oct 30, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

I believe that in hindsight he likely sees how offensive his comparison was. Everyone makes mistakes, and it is excellent that he apologised. In the case of both the Pope's offensive comments and this Imam's offensive comments - the damage is likely done, despite the apologies. That is the sad part...
by shafique
Oct 30, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

It is completely inappropriate to preach to men that uncovered women are putting themselves out there for attack in a country where the majority of the women are uncovered. Agreed. He agrees too - the advice he was giving was to Muslim men and women. There is no correlation between a woman not cove...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Australian cleric compares women to pieces of meat
Replies: 81
Views: 8923

Feminism - women wearing revealing clothes

A simple question. Why do women wear revealing clothes in public - i.e. tight, or skimpy? I think the men who persuaded feminists that it was their right to wear skimpy clothes are geniuses! :) But seriously, I'm interested in the answers. (I expect - "it makes me feel good/glamourous/chic"...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Feminism - women wearing revealing clothes
Replies: 51
Views: 8218

The question is why wear figure revealing clothes in public? Is it that women enjoy being judged for their bodies? What about women who aren't in shape (think Vicky Pollard).. why do they wear what they wear? As a man, I can see the advantages for us onlookers - but what's in it for you girls? :) ch...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Feminism - women wearing revealing clothes
Replies: 51
Views: 8218

Which brings me back to my point that God is the creation of man. Many civilisations worshipped many Gods, the Greeks, the Romans, Egyptians etc. Until someone changed all that because the belief of 'one' God became the most popular theory awith more people turning to it. Eh, depends what you belie...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: wat is god?
Replies: 50
Views: 4839

Which brings me back to my point that God is the creation of man. Many civilisations worshipped many Gods, the Greeks, the Romans, Egyptians etc. Until someone changed all that because the belief of 'one' God became the most popular theory awith more people turning to it. Eh, depends what you belie...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: wat is god?
Replies: 50
Views: 4839

Interesting.

Keep the comments coming.
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Feminism - women wearing revealing clothes
Replies: 51
Views: 8218

Okay, that self-esteem thing needs clarification. One can get self esteem from showing off a great figure in revealing clothes, and one can get self esteem from attracting men. The first is a more healthy form of self-esteem than the latter obviously. A woman should feel good about herself without ...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Feminism - women wearing revealing clothes
Replies: 51
Views: 8218

It's human nature to feel good when wearing nice clothes and being well groomed. Women judge each other all the time - more than men will judge others. The points about self esteem are interesting though. Some women wear revealing clothes to boost self esteem, but for others their body shape does no...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Feminism - women wearing revealing clothes
Replies: 51
Views: 8218

Well Shafique, I can answer you better if I know your definition of revealing. According to Islam, no head scarf and anything that shows skin or is form fitting is "revealing". Is your definition the same as this one? Let's get the term defined and go from there. What I meant by revealing...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Feminism - women wearing revealing clothes
Replies: 51
Views: 8218

Well there is that old saying 'if you've got it, flaunt it!'. It's all fashion influenced, if a woman feels good about herself and has a nice body then why shouldn't she show it, and many men also like their girl friends to look nice and s.e.xy, to show them off if you like. Women with flab bulging...
by shafique
Nov 01, 2006
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Feminism - women wearing revealing clothes
Replies: 51
Views: 8218
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