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Thanks - so selling rice at noon is a crime in Banda Aceh - and the sentence is 2 lashes. Stupid law, stupid people.

Sorry, there is no excuse.

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Shafique

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I'll let you and Mel fight this one out :) For the first 5 mins, I thought he was speaking sense and made some very valid observations and points - but his answer about spending less on arms and more on education and health was an eye-opener (we can't spend more, it will cause inflation, don't have ...

shafique

Turkeys don't vote for Christmas, obviously. But that said, it is fascinating to read the loon versions of history and the funny bit about Spencer and debates! If I didn't know better, I would have said that eh was trying to be funny! ;) But let us take a central accusation against the loons: The Is...

shafique

Out of the mouths of babes!

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Shafique

shafique

eh, this thread is about Islamophobia in the US. The article is comprehensive and well argued (as Tom points out). I'm loathe to correct the history lectures that you were taught in Bible Camp - suffice to say that (as your other assertion that the Crusades weren't Holy Wars), your view is - how sha...

shafique

You must have read a different article - or stopped reading before the end of that paragraph. Anyone with any degree of objectivity would come to the conclusion that this is representing a dual standard. Moreover, it is inevitable that the asymmetry of military power that exists between Israel and t...

shafique

Watched the first three parts so far. Impressive, balanced and factual.

The second part tackles the issue of violence - and is very well done - but sort of ends abruptly. Pam Geller and Hirsi Ali make an appearance in part 3 about women - so the critics get a full airing.

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Shafique

shafique

Nope, that's not what he is saying - he is calling both the killings by Hamas and Israel as crimes, but simply pointing out that Hamas has limited means by which to fight back. What you chose not to quote is telling: But in the end, while Hamas unlawfully killed nine Israeli civilians and that is a ...

shafique

\ Another classic example is that whenever Israel uses force against Palestine, it is deemed justifiable self-defense and when Palestine reacts with much lesser violence, it is always considered terrorism. This duality of standard enhances the use of violence by the weaker side, particularly in thes...

shafique

It felt like they just cut it there - I expected to hear more on the subject.. as you say it is a pretty important subject to explore..

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Shafique

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Enc. Brittanica had the number at over 4m in 2004 - so who knows? Perhaps ABC was just going with the lower range of the estimates available? But I'm curious - why pick on this line in the piece when it hardly seems relevant to the message that the Islamophobic portrayal of Islam is just plain misin...

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Over 300 children were killed by Israelis in Gaza during the bombing and invasion, and the cynical and illegal use of this child as human shield has thankfully resulted in a prosecution - but only thanks to external sources highlighting the crime. So much for the spin of 'most moral army in the worl...

shafique

eh - It would have been more efficient to just state 'no, I want to continue to believe what loon bloggers insist is the truth about Islam and history'. It must make you really uncomfortable to have your beliefs exposed in this way - how loons rely on exaggeration ('kernels of truth') and can't addr...

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No surprise that eh's loon blogger friend disagrees - just another example of guys who admit to not actually having read the whole Quran passing themselves off as experts.

You can lead a horse to water..

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Shafique

shafique

I thought he/she was the Muslim mutant ninja turtle!

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Shafique

shafique

They're right you know - if you squint, stand on one leg and tilt your head slightly to the left and stare intently, you can see a 3D representation of the Israeli flag... or perhaps I just need my first cup of coffee??! :) DD - is the Iranian dome the original mosque or the Ibn Battuta copy with St...

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Looks like an interesting read. From the articles I've read by Berman - I would agree with his observation that what he calls 'Islamism' is a modern phenomenon and agree with the lines he draws from European fascism and communism with the Bathists and Islamists (Muslim Brotherhood, Al Qaeda primaril...

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But does he believe in talking donkeys? :) On a serious note, Christians, Jews and Muslims are taught that that super-natural beings exist - angels and demons for example - but that is a belief that is not actually backed up by science (i.e. no empirical evidence exists for the existence of these be...

shafique

Here's a review of the book from salon.com:
http://dir.salon.com/books/feature/2003 ... ndex2.html

Quite detailed and interesting comments. What do you think FD - is it a fair treatment of the book?

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Shafique

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I've conceded that you think you are right on the historical points and that whether this is true can easily be looked up. Indeed, I quoted how the author ended the paragraph which contains the historical events which are at odds with the things you've been taught. I'm waiting for you to address the...

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Wow, you almost wrote a complete sentence there.

You don't really expect people to take elder of zyion's blog posts seriously do you? Next you'll be telling us you believe Fox News is reliable... oh, wait - you do believe that don't you!

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Shafique

shafique

Commenting on another book you haven't read, eh. Really. You can do better.

LOL

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Shafique

shafique

I'm loathe to correct the history lectures that you were taught in Bible Camp - suffice to say that (as your other assertion that the Crusades weren't Holy Wars), your view is - how shall I put this - unorthodox. Historical references to what happened to Jews (including Marronos) in Spain are easy ...

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FD - this review sort of hits on the head what I picked up from other places about Berman's point of view: .. Disappointing, though, is Berman’s characterization of western intentions as wholly good and Islamist intentions as wholly evil. A good example of this is his analysis of messianic tendencie...

shafique

So, how did Guru Bob do in the debate?

Will watch later - looking forward to it.

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Shafique

shafique

Perhaps I'm just being thick - but where abouts is the obvious Star of David - I see a lot of partial ones (squashed ones etc). This resembles a Star of David http://www.patterninislamicart.com/ia/l/sic_050.jpg And the Seal of Solomon (i.e. Star of David) is used explicitly in historical mosques aro...

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[settles back for the feature] - make it a good one boys.

shafique

Happy to sit back and be educated by those more knowledgeable about Communism and Fascism.

I'll happily give my comments on what is posted!

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Shafique

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Transcript is here: http://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/week-transcript-holy-war-americans-fear-islam/story?id=11786745 I've watched the intro and first 10 mins or so, then read through the transcript. Nothing too enlightening on either side, if you ask me. My feeling is that each side will think they di...

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