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Dude, you ARE in denial. http://www.dubaiforums.com/philosophy-dubai/meaning-islam-t39515-45.html#p340178 Anyway, moving on to the substantive point - what do you say about Professor Kung's clear conclusion that you're wrong that the God of the Quran is different from the God Jesus prayed to? If you...

shafique

The problem, young loon, is that the Nazi constitution included Hitler's 'Positive Chrsitianity' and there was an official Nazi church, the Protestant Reich Church , along with Bishops and worshippers (and not forgetting the church pictured above). No amount of smoke and mirrors about Nazi's changin...

shafique

Are you sure you're blogger friend is right and Haaretz, the Rabbi etc are wrong? Elder's track record is not great.

Do you agree that the Rabbi should have apologised, or are you disappointed he did so?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Again, I ask, where does this 40,000 figure come from? It's listed on 'mommy's' website - but is this another example of loon wishful thinking? Anyway - your argument is with the media, not me. As Spencer is complaining that it is all a big, bad conspiracy: http://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/media-sp...

shafique

You're rambling, young one. The Park 51 loons (of whom less than 1000 turned up on 9/11) - are protesting against the constitutional rights of other Americans. No one disputes this (not even 'mommy' and Spencer) - but are protesting that their feelings may be hurt. It must take a monumental dose of ...

shafique

Why does Shafique refer to everyone who doesn't agree with him as a 'loon'. It's a description he uses alot. Loon is a specific term, and is not used for critics of Islam in general.. Loon is a term that is now being used more and more to describe the actions of Islamophobes and their 'beliefs'. Th...

shafique

Yes Bora I agree with many of your points. The thing with the muslims is that they throw their religion in your face 24/7. I'm afraid my sympathies will always lie with the Isreali Jews. So, your views towards Muslims is coloured by your experience that Muslims throw their religion in your face, 24...

shafique

Here's the view of an Israeli mom who lost a child to a suicide bomber:

http://thejourneyofhope.blogspot.com/20 ... s-for.html

She is pretty much agreeing with Kanelli. It is also worth googling what her husband's views are too.

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

Fascinating thread this is. BM - a very moving and personal story - thanks for sharing. I'd be very intrigued to hear your views on two related issues - one about NI and one about terrorist freedom fighters. Firstly - what are your views about Martin McGuinness being in power now (he was an IRA comm...

shafique

I thought I'd just bump this for Tom's comment - as he stated that his view was that the conflict is complex. I have to say that I find Finkelstein's explanations very compelling.
(But then again, perhaps I'm just a brainwashed biased Muslim?

)

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

BM - thanks for answering my questions directly without trying to change the subject or hide your views. This is refreshing and I applaud you for your honesty and consistency in your logic. Whilst I hold a different view, I have to say your logic is consistent. You pre-empted me by stating you also ...

shafique

BM - you are right, Mandela was indeed considered a terrorists by Apartheid SA and fmously by Margaret Thatcher (and the ANC did indeed carry out bombings etc) I also have strong feelings about the IRA - having been close to two of their bombings in London (as well as the 7/7 attacks). I felt strong...

shafique

RC - what has the IRA conquering and occupying England have to do with Chechnya? Oh, I get it - the English under occupation would be the Chechens in this situation? ;) I'm stilll interested to hear from BM if the English resistance against the US backed IRA occupation forces (IOF) would therefore a...

shafique

:) I've heard a few variations of the joke. However, Finkelstein's points are that one side insists that the issue is complicated and intractable - but that on examination these, he argues, are excuses and smokescreens. There is certainly rhetoric from both sides, however on the steps to achieving p...

shafique

I'm stilll interested to hear from BM if the English resistance against the US backed IRA occupation forces (IOF) would therefore also be terrorists if they objected to having parts of London declared as Irish? Cheers Shafique While I understand that discussions can often digress, why do you need t...

shafique

BM - my history books do tell me that Ireland was one of (if not the) first colonies of England. However, my scenario is not based on what may happen or based on the US government actually supporting an invasion, but rather to check that your view that any resistance against an invading army by non-...

shafique

Dude, you ARE in denial. http://www.dubaiforums.com/philosophy-dubai/meaning-islam-t39515-45.html#p340178 Anyway, moving on to the substantive point - what do you say about Professor Kung's clear conclusion that you're wrong that the God of the Quran is different from the God Jesus prayed to? If yo...

shafique

I agree - loons do have their amusement value. The loons who advocate violence are just as bad as the fundy nutters who think that killing muslims is somehow related to Danish cartoons (for example). It just emphasises that we're all the same, all societies have nutters with strange theories - like ...

shafique

Wow - that's some achievement in the time you've been around! Congrats..

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Glad we seem to agree that the Protestant Reich church was not atheistic - I rest my case. (You may want to re-read what I said about JW's views on Christmas vs the views of Pauline Christians. BTW - do you disagree with the JWs that Christmas is actually originally a pagan mid-winter festival??) Ch...

shafique

BM - why avoid the question? (I totally agree - you'd have to be smoking something to call all those fighting against an occupying force 'terrorists, because they are cowards and won't wear uniforms' - but I'm not the one who thinks this). ;) Would you, or would you not, consider English resistance ...

shafique

Thanks Dillon - I'm sure you're advice is well meaning. I am indeed trying to extract a specific answer - see the quote below and you'll understand why. I only resorted to the hypothetical when my real world example (French Resistance, Irgun terrorists becoming politicians) didn't produce an answer,...

shafique

Dillon - don't you think it is a bit weird for us to be discussing whether BM has a choice over whether to clarify what she meant in the quote above? I think it is weird. Whilst you may think my gentle questions are the equivalent of the Spanish Inquisition - may I still respectfully reserve the rig...

shafique

LOL Thanks for pointing out that I didn't explicitly condemn violence and giving the me the opportunity to explicitly, categorically and completely condemn violence as tools of oppression, suppression, intimidation etc etc. I am totally against all offensive wars (especially ones that pretend to be ...

shafique

Did anyone read what happened to this story? Was there a 'Muslim' plot to kill the Pope? Islamophobic headlines in the press, surely not? :) Six Algerian street cleaners arrested for planning to kill Pope Benedict were pronounced innocent and released without any charges. The six were arrested in Lo...

shafique

Not often one gets a chance to quote (or even read) the Socialist Worker - but this was too good to pass up: Refuse workers’ plan to kill Pope? What rubbish “Muslim plot To Kill Pope,” screamed The Daily Express last Saturday. And, urged on by police leaks, the rest of the press joined in. They all ...

shafique

BM - I totally applaud your candour and straight talk. Can I ask you again the straight question that whether your view about freedom fighters extended to the French resistance during WWII (i.e. that they were cowards for not wearing uniforms and attacking the Nazis)? i.e. Do you think the French re...

shafique

Cool, we've established that legitimate resistance to an occupation is not terrorism - and we agree that French resistance to Nazi occupation was exactly such an instance. [deleted] So, on that point of agreement - I thank you for your frank views and applaud you for your patience and hope that the ...

shafique

I apologise. I did not mean to cause more grief with my cheap argument about the 'Austrian mother' - it was a cheap shot. Sorry.

I do hope that you can reconcile with your daughter in future.

Take care.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Who refuses to condone war crimes that are more extreme than Al-Qaeda? http://www.dubaiforums.com/philosophy-dubai/most-extreme-religous-fanatic-here-t41961.html As for Khaybar - I would indeed condemn what Guru Bob told you happened as a war crime. Unfortunately, I don't automatically believe what ...

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