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Let me know when you are ready to discuss the evidence and the logic of Spencer's loony claims. I've already linked a few times to Danios' comprehensive punking of Spencer - starting with Spencer's epic failure of comprehension where he was shown to be wrong on the subject of the meaning of Dhimmi/D...

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Some quotes from the original podcast linked to by eh. At 34.00 min: Daveed to Spencer: putting it all to Islamic doctrine is NOT accurate - punking Spencer's example of Pakistan where Daveed points out that the support of the Taliban etc is about realpolitik. (So, an example of loon exageration pun...

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^Chocs did you watch the two videos (Olberman's and Jon Stewarts)? BTW I too would object to a mega supremacist mosque on (or even over-looking) ground zero. When they plan to build one, let me know. And the anti-mosque brigade have upped their game (apparently you can rent decommissioned missiles i...

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Thanks for quoting the bit of the article which exactly exposes Geller's loony beliefs. I presume you're going to argue that Jewish newspaper doesn't understand Islam.. :) Embarrassing for her to be brought to task over her beliefs by a Jewish journalist! No wonder she walked out in a huff. No wonde...

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Do you think that Spencer will come out of hiding and debate someone (say a Muslim scholar, or say Danios) who doesn't agree with his main loon belief that Islam is not a religion of peace - or does he only 'debate' with those who mostly agree with him? And the answer is that 'most' Muslim scholars...

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You are flailing around again young loon. What has Kuwait got to do with Geller being exposed as someone who can't defend her views when challenged? As for what Jewish Week chose to print - I think you need to tell them why you think Geller is right and Ahmed is wrong. I'm sure they could do with th...

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LOL - I told you to actually read and understand the two articles first and then read the orbituary. Yet another epic failure of comprehension. 10 out of 10 for persistence, 0 out of 10 for comprehension. Let me sum it up for you again: The fact that you believe Karmi is an anti-semite (and FD imagi...

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LOL. Professor Hans Kung is a Christian theologian who has actually studied and understood the Quran and concludes that the God of Muhammad is the same God of Jesus. Which loon blogger believes they are more qualified than him? (Note, he is a 'Senior Christian Theologian'): As a leading Catholic the...

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This was moved from the Politics section from the thread about Pamela Geller walking out of an interview with Jewish Week when challenged over her views (and asked for evidence): I accept your challenge. Let's start with a few classical scholars: Ibn Abi Zayd al—Qayrawani (d. 996), Maliki jurist [11...

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Who's challenge are you supposedly accepting eh? I merely stated that you would probably argue that Geller is a scholar and understands Islam and is right in her Islamophobia, but would not be able to defend her walking out of an interview when challenged on evidence. I suspected you'd try and diver...

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This is a classic example of loon reasoning - relying on selective quotes and loon interpretations. There is indeed a concept of just war in Islam. Jihad, the lesser jihad, does indeed signify using military means to establish order and fight injustice. The greater Jihad is self-improvement, fightin...

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Is this thread still going on-going?

I think we should send in George Mitchell to arbitrate!

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Thanks for confirming that Prophet, pbuh, did not attack Ethiopia. And it seems that as well as not having read the Quran in full, you haven't read many hadith either (you're probably relying on Spencer, aren't you?). The Hadith are exactly accounts of the Prophet, pbuh, explaining and teaching abou...

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What's wrong with starting with Professor Hans Kung? We can move on to other Christian scholars later - eg FOUAD ELIAS ACCAD grew up in Lebanon in the Greek Orthodox Church and dedicated his life to reaching out to Muslims. Fouad became on ordained pastor and was a scholar who knew ancient Hebrew, G...

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Not even close, and certainly no cigar. Abyssinia was indeed not attacked/conquered and the reason was that they weren't a hostile nation. This blows the loon interpretation of Islam (one not shared by Muslims) that ALL non-Muslim nations should be attacked and subjugated, and supports the true Isla...

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I understand your frustration and desire to throw up more smoke and mirrors. However, I will be to the point. Spencer has this loon theory (not shared by Muslims) that Islam is an aggressive ideology that mandates that ALL non-Muslim nations must be fought against and subjugated. This loon theory de...

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Ok, now we've established that indeed scholars of Christianity have concluded that the God of the Quran is the same God of the Bible, I await your comments/refutation of this simple fact. Is it not the case that those who have studied the Quran and know the Bible intimately, and conclude the above, ...

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You should tell us - he's your fellow countryman and perhaps you've crossed paths? He's certainly aligned with your world-outlook concerning Islam! I just quoted NBC's website and haven't heard any more on this - only that he stated he was going to burn the Talmud as well. I asked you in the other t...

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You're quite welcome. I always enjoy how loon bloggers believe that they can speak to what Islam actually teaches and place their views above that of the Prophet, pbuh. The choice is now clear, you haven't produced any new evidence for your views and haven't really addressed the simple fact that the...

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Thanks for the link - that was funny because it was a fabricated news story made up by JihadWatch, that was quoted as fact by Fox News and that you triumphantly presented as evidence that Muslims condone rape! Thanks for bringing that back up to our notice. Are you saying that your friend Pastor Jon...

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RC - I'm flattered that you think I invented the English meanings of 'Politics' and 'Science' - but unfortunately my other names aren't 'Oxford English Dictionary' :) As for eh - he is funny, isn't he. A religion is indeed a way of life - in the same way football is a sport (duh?)- by any definition...

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I have a feeling that chev-the-chav would lose a debate against Hawking's chair - but then again, perhaps it may be a draw? :) As theories of creation goes - my favourite and simplest one is that we were all created 5 minutes ago with ready-made memories. It can't be disproved either way, but that d...

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I'm sure I didn't, but then again perhaps that is what you read - but it certainly wasn't my intention. If I remember correctly, I quoted articles from the US which stated that certain acts were politically moivated rather than religious - and said I agreed with the facts, definitions and conclusion...

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I refer you back to my comment about the chair.

(To be honest, I think chev is actually someone's idea of a joke)

Actually, you are right -it does belong in religion.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Geert is completely wrong about Islam being a religion of violence, not really a religion but a fascist ideology etc. He is labouring under the false notion that loon bloggers are correct in their interpretation of Islam (indeed he is another one that admits he hasn't actually read the whole Quran, ...

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I chose to put this article in Politics rather than religion.. as the themes are more about recent hype about shariah rather than a religious discussion. This article from Huffington post is by Sumbul Ali-Karamali. She is an attorney with an additional degree in Islamic law, as well as the author of...

shafique

When you are ready to address the conclusions of Christian scholars who have studied the Quran and concluded that Muslims and Christians worship the same God, let me know. I asked politely for you to stop whining, but yet we only get more of the same. Do you have any answers, or are you just going t...

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I understand that you keep wanting to divert attention away from the fact that your loon theory has now been comprehensively punked - the whole of your post above presented no new argument or information, and spectactularly failed to address the simple point addressed. The offer is still open though...

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kanelli, that is a valid view - and I certainly would advocate the same if the choice was between a secular legal system based on justice and the general principles in the article above (as the author says, these are pretty uncontentious) - and the medieval versions of Shariah that we can see in som...

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desertdudeshj wrote:I swear I read the Headline to be who's afraid of sharjah !

"Be afraid, be very afraid"

(Isn't that the general state of those transporting booze from Ajman??)

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