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Re: East Jerusalem

B'tselem has listed the land stolen by Israel between 1968 and 1991 (in addition to the 70,500 in 1967): http://www.btselem.org/english/Jerusalem/Land_Expropriation_Statistics.asp The totals are Amount of land taken (in dunams) 23,378 Number of housing units 44,610 Number of residents 176,647 Policy...
by shafique
Aug 24, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: East Jerusalem
Replies: 9
Views: 1574

Re: East Jerusalem

Loons hate the sunlight of facts on shining on their beliefs! You can almost hear the gnashing of teeth..... "Grrh, now that it's highlighted that East Jerusalem is actually mostly West Bank territory that was renamed 'Jerusalem' by the Israelis, how can we continue with our arguments... I know...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: East Jerusalem
Replies: 9
Views: 1574

Re: Spencer: Obama Declares War On Free Speech

I fully understand the concept of free speech. You do realise that Obama knows a bit more about the law than pseudo-scholar Spencer (that was understatement, I know some Americans have a problem identifying this :) ) In the US is it not a crime to falsely yell 'fire' in a cinema? Isn't that a restri...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Spencer: Obama Declares War on Free Speech
Replies: 18
Views: 1887

Communist to Islamophobe - eh's nightmare

Young eh has expressed some pretty strong views against communists. In a word, he hates them - but perhaps a bit less than he hates Muslims: http://www.dubaiforums.com/philosophy-dubai/most-extreme-religous-fanatic-here-t41961-30.html#p341839 eh is also a big fan of Bob Spencer - the loon-in-chief a...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Communist to Islamophobe - eh's nightmare
Replies: 0
Views: 887

Re: Hitchens On The Imam Of The Ground Zero Mosque

Hitchens makes a very good point, and makes it well. No one is denying that people who share Hitchen's views about religion should be free to question or criticise the teachings of Islam, or challenge what Imams have to say (eg about the US foreign policy being a factor in 9/11). Indeed, if Park 51 ...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Hitchens on the imam of the Ground Zero mosque
Replies: 2
Views: 966

Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!

The episode in the video begins when, as John Cole put it, “some black guy made the mistake of looking Muslimish and was harassed and nearly assaulted by the collection of lily white mouth-breathers at the event . . . At about 25 seconds in, he quite astutely points out to the crowd that ‘All y’all...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!
Replies: 12
Views: 1176

Re: Looking 'Muslimish' - Beware!

Young loon, you're surely not calling Salon.Com a 'loon site' are you? But I like your segway into a 'what aboutery' argument - very smoooth. ;)

Who says Americans can't be funny?

Did you go on the march?

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!
Replies: 12
Views: 1176

Re: US Christians Standing Up To Islamophobia

So, we have US Christians, Jews and Muslims supporting the cultural centre, but a scholar at Al Azhar in Cairo speaking against it.

Crayzee. :mrgreen:

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: US Christians standing up to Islamophobia
Replies: 7
Views: 1118

Re: Spencer: Obama Declares War On Free Speech

I did like Sam Harris' book, a letter to a Christian nation, and I read the above when it was posted two years ago. It was full of inaccuracies then, as it is now - but that is beside the point of this thread. Harris is no where arguing (that I can see) that inciting people to violence should be leg...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Spencer: Obama Declares War on Free Speech
Replies: 18
Views: 1887

Re: Hitchens On The Imam Of The Ground Zero Mosque

This is on the BBC: 'Hallowed ground'? A personal view of the Ground Zero mosque row http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1GUB7SkUBsQ&feature=player_embedded The blogger's photos of the buildings around Park 51 - 'On Hallowed Ground' is here: http://daryllang.com/blog/4421 Which in itself, inspired th...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Hitchens on the imam of the Ground Zero mosque
Replies: 2
Views: 966

Re: US Christians Standing Up To Islamophobia

FD - that's fantastic. Bob Spencer agreeing with Muslims - and all from Memri. Excellent stuff. Still doesn't make the project mosque though, nor does it change the fact the arguments used by Guru Bob are .. now what did Hitchens call them... ah yes, 'stupid and demagogic'! All the commentators you'...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: US Christians standing up to Islamophobia
Replies: 7
Views: 1118

Re: Spencer: Obama Declares War On Free Speech

Just repeating a silly argument won't make it any less silly. Obama, who taught constitutional law, is certainly a greater expert than Spencer - and I really can't believe you are still trying to argue that Spencer's spiel holds any water. He just wants to preserve the right to spew hatred. The para...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Spencer: Obama Declares War on Free Speech
Replies: 18
Views: 1887

Re: Spencer: Obama Declares War On Free Speech

I didn't notice at first, but this story is actually from a year ago. :) What's the matter eh - couldn't stand the heat in the other threads so you felt the need to go and dig up an old Spencer special? Was it the revelation that Spencer was a communist that spurred you on? LOL But seriously, I thin...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Spencer: Obama Declares War on Free Speech
Replies: 18
Views: 1887

Re: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!

Less funny news: Police: Cab Driver Stabbed By Passenger Who Asked “Are You Muslim?” As of late Tuesday, no charges had been filed. Both the driver and the passenger were taken to Bellevue Hospital. By: NY1 News A city cab driver is in the hospital after being stabbed by a passenger who allegedly as...
by shafique
Aug 25, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!
Replies: 12
Views: 1176

Re: Spencer: Obama Declares War On Free Speech

I notice that you don't distance yourself from Geller's loony comments about Obama. And, may I also repeat myself (as you have done): Just repeating a silly argument won't make it any less silly. I have no doubt you blindly believe Guru Bob's argument and I see you don't dispute the fact Obama knows...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Spencer: Obama Declares War on Free Speech
Replies: 18
Views: 1887

Re: Looking 'Muslimish' - Beware!

What is the other side to the story of a taxi driver's throat being slashed in NY for being a Muslim then eh? I'm pretty certain that the rise in Islamophobic attacks is due to the likes of Geller and Spencer, and not those who are opposing them. But then again, you seem to rush to the old Loon tact...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!
Replies: 12
Views: 1176

Re: Sixty-One Percent Of The Koran Talk Ill Of Unbelievers

Go on then, prove that 61% or even more than 50% of verses talk ill of unbelievers.

Otherwise, 'All Mouth, No Trousers'

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Sixty-One Percent of the Koran Talk Ill Of Unbelievers
Replies: 17
Views: 2447

Re: Looking 'Muslimish' - Beware!

Spencer is a treasure trove of humour, it has to be said.

I understand fully why you're so frustrated these days - it can't be nice to have your extremist views (and those of your friends) exposed.

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!
Replies: 12
Views: 1176

Re: Spencer: Obama Declares War On Free Speech

I set you a homework question and you want me to do it for you! Jihadwatch, Atlas Shrugs and yourself all have these weird views about Obama -that he's a closet Muslim and now this silly story from a year ago where Spencer argues that being against hate speeches that incite violence is unconstitutio...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Spencer: Obama Declares War on Free Speech
Replies: 18
Views: 1887

Re: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!

Another anti-Muslim hate crime within 24 hours!! :shock: Mosque vandalized by the American Nationalist Brotherhood (ANB), this time it is explicitly connected to the so-called “mosque at Ground Zero.” Loons and their message is having results Vandalism at Madera Islamic center called hate crime by E...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!
Replies: 12
Views: 1176

CIA: Exporter of Terrorism - report

Wikileaks releases CIA 'exporter of terrorism' report The report cites attacks by US-based or financed Jewish, Muslim and Irish-nationalism terrorists Whistle-blowing website Wikileaks has published a CIA memo examining the implications of the US being perceived as an "exporter of terrorism&quo...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: CIA: Exporter of Terrorism - report
Replies: 0
Views: 851

Re: Looking 'Muslimish' - Beware!

^How much would we get if we handed over an ANB member?

eh - there's a business opportunity for you, you could rat out on the friends you don't particularly like! :)

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Looking 'Muslimish' - beware!
Replies: 12
Views: 1176

Re: Koran: Positive Or Negative Talk Of Non-believers

Berrin - you are right that God explains what happens to those souls that aren't forgiven, but we should also remind eh of the many verses which state that God is most forgiving as well. I also explained to eh that God explaining what will happen to souls who don't follow God's commandments is equiv...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Koran: Positive or negative talk of non-believers
Replies: 60
Views: 6883

Re: Koran: Positive Or Negative Talk Of Non-believers

The point that really stumps eh is that Christian theologians who have studied the Quran have concluded that the God of Muhammad, pbuh, is the same God of Moses and Jesus etc. Hans Kung has been quoted a few times stating this explicitly. Therefore the attributes of God are the same - He is unchangi...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Koran: Positive or negative talk of non-believers
Replies: 60
Views: 6883

Re: Spencer: Obama Declares War On Free Speech

I know you want to believe Spencer's silly argument that it is unconstitutional to criminalise and condemn the hate speeches so beloved of your friends, but as I keep repeating this just happens to be one of many weird and silly beliefs you guys have about Obama. Obama actually taught constitutional...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Spencer: Obama Declares War on Free Speech
Replies: 18
Views: 1887

Islamophobia Deniers

Islamophobia? What Islamophobia? Posted on 26 August 2010 by Zingel http://www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/ahmed_sharif.jpg Muslim non-victim of non-existent Islamophobia An irony of Islamophobes is that they are among the most vehement Islamophobia-deniers. It’s sort of like how White...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Islamophobia Deniers
Replies: 14
Views: 1396

Re: Islamophobia Deniers

Incredibly, Bob Spencer is trying to spin the story and say it was a fake Islamophobic crime. He argues that the nutter was really in favour of Park 51 because of who he worked for. :shock: But he's been punked on his own blog by a commentator who calls him out on the theory he plucked out of thin a...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Islamophobia Deniers
Replies: 14
Views: 1396

Re: There is no "Ground Zero Mosque"

The comedy and valid points keep on coming. Enjoy:

http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/wed-a ... ee-no-evil
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: There is no "Ground Zero Mosque"
Replies: 11
Views: 1009

Re: US Christians standing up to Islamophobia

Well, NYT is making a good argument for saying Bin Laden would be against the Park 51 cultural centre. Note also the tit-bit of info about Israel supporting Hamas because Palestinian opposition to the occupation fell outside of Islam. Taking Bin Laden’s Side By NICHOLAS D. KRISTOF Published: August ...
by shafique
Aug 26, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: US Christians standing up to Islamophobia
Replies: 7
Views: 1118
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