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You didn't give us the answer to the question - are the UK, NY and Irish authorities twice as bad as Hamas or is Hamas half as good as them - as they have totally banned Shisha in public places. :) :) Oh - surely you're not venturing into criticising 'thought crimes' on the part of Hamas, however fu...

shafique

FD - I applaud your tenacity. You should really put yourself up for an award from the Israelis for taking on this lost cause. You do realise that the loons/fanbois that believe the spin is a small minority, don't you? It must really hurt you guys to see that the siege of Gaza has been an epic failur...

shafique

Ok, Haaretz's levy made this point regarding the Israeli public last month - but given the loon support here for Israeli spin about Gaza, the question in the title seems appropriate. Will the fanbois take up Levy's challenge and ask 'where to? And why?'? Will they acknowledge that the siege didn't w...

shafique

I almost forgot (again):

You forgot to answer this question:

shafique wrote:BTW, did you decide to start this thread before or after you clicked on this link:
http://www.gaza-strophe.com/eng/index.htm

shafique

Fair point - I did think I'd posted this in June when it first came out - and did look for it. My search skills let me down this time - that will teach me to use cryptic thread titles! ;) Did you read it first time round? (Perhaps this was the cause of your recent frustration and obsession with repe...

shafique

What is causing you most concern FD - the fact that the Gaza siege is in the process of crumbling, or that no one (not Jerusalem Post, Amnesty International etc) are buying the Israeli spin? Fascinating that you now seem to be arguing that the Gazans are living it up whilst under siege - pretty much...

shafique

Ok, so you disagree with the people who view your arguments as no more than cynical Israeli government spin. Fair enough. I'm with the Jersusalem Post on this one - they don't buy the 'it's not that bad in Gaza' line. As for food aid, given that the UN states that 80% of Gazans are dependant on food...

shafique

Sky News report from Saturday. Seems to be consistent with the general consensus of accounts of the situation under the siege, and notably different from what some have chosen to believe: Supplies For Gaza But Situation Still Dire Share 3:59pm UK, Saturday July 17, 2010 Lisa Holland, foreign affairs...

shafique

Sigh. You seem to be having a failure in reading young lad. Go back and read again, there is nothing in God's words that says that Jesus had the conversation when he was one day old. Fail. Let me repeat - no where in the Quran does God say Jesus was one day old (or even in his first few months of li...

shafique

^Are you too comparing the Israelis with those committing atrocities in Darfur? Strange, I had you down as a fanboi. :mrgreen: I guess you have to resort to rhetoric when the facts on the ground are that no one believes the Israeli spin. No wonder you have no comment to my last post! ;) But hey, you...

shafique

Has the cat got your tongue, young one?

You're not avoiding the question are you, perchance?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Jihadwatch (aka Looncentral) is run by event horizon's (eh) guru Bob Spencer - best known in these parts for running away from debates after his failings in scholarship have been exposed. Well, the site is dripping with hatred for Islam - but in their zeal they have outdone themselves by aligning th...

shafique

The first comment (i.e. the latest comment) currently is: Posted by: bob149 on July 19, 2010 4:01 PM If honestreporting is being claimed as a valid critique claiming a web page giving the truth then please view both the dot com and the dot org version and the viewpoints of associated international l...

shafique

Another aspect of this whole loon argument that the media is lying to the world about Gaza is rather deliciously ironic. Fanbois are complaining that the world is believing something the fanbois are frantically jumping up and down and declaring as spin. The world isn't listening though and toys are ...

shafique

So, you're backing your Guru Bob then. No surprises there - you are, after all, the most extreme religious fanatic posting on this forum!

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Don't underestimate the stupidity of the fanbois!

They are arguing that the Pals are out-spinning the Israelis - talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face!

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I've no problem with any person's translation - I'm just making the point that God does not say Jesus spoke at one day old. 19.24 does not say who the one speaking is, and I agree with the translators and tafseers who say the voice was that of an angel. The translators that speculate that it was Jes...

shafique

Wow, you are coming out in support of the far right group - well done - Bob will be proud. Next you'll be arguing that the Ku Klux Klan are just lovers of bedsheets and like bonfires made out of crosses. ;) Ok, let's start with what the Jewish organisations in the UK say. Well, it appears they have ...

shafique

But hey, let's also see what really happens when undercover teams visit the EDL The EDL claims it is a peaceful and non-racist organisation only concerned with protesting against "militant Islam". However, over the last four months the Guardian has attended its demonstrations and witnessed...

shafique

And this from the Daily Mail (right wing paper!) - it shows that the EDL are loons indeed, no wonder eh supports them! This is England: Masked like terrorists, members of Britain's newest and fastest - growing protest group intimidate a Muslim woman on a train en route to a violent demo By BILLY BRI...

shafique

Ah, good come back - not.

What's the matter - a bit embarrassed that Jews in the UK rebuffed the bigots that your Guru and you are embracing and 'applauding'?

Surely you don't really think loon-central knows more about these racists than the Jewish Chronicle, Daily Mail etc etc?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Huh? New Statesman article, in full, Guardian undercover report - in full, Daily Mail investigation - in full. Haaretz article I snipped, but linked to full article. You need to look up what 'snippets' means young one. The EDL website invites people to join their marches etc - that is what the journ...

shafique

Fascinating that eh decides to start a new thread and just quote what EDL's website says about their views, and somehow he believes their protestations that they aren't loons. In reply, when shown that Jewish leadership in the UK rejected the overtures from the 'bigots' and that journalists' investi...

shafique

^DD - I did warn you you

shafique wrote:Don't underestimate the stupidity of the fanbois!

shafique

Let's review what Hamas' complete, comprehensive and clear stance is on Judaism - well, that's in the first post - here's a relevant portion from it: The plight of our people is not the product of a religious conflict between us and the Jews in Palestine or anywhere else: the aims and positions of t...

shafique

Ah, the old loon ad hominem is never far behind the loony tu quoque. ;) So, we have mini-me Bob defending the EDL by pointing out that loon's persist in believing snippets that are roundly contradicted by Hamas' complete, comprehensive and clear statement relating to Judaism and Holocaust and which ...

shafique

I agree DK - it is wrong, IMO, for drivers to object to guide dogs. Back in December 2007, the Muslim Council in Britain said the same thing - so it seems to be a question of educating the drivers.: UK Mosque Welcomes Guiding Dog By Emdad Rahman, IOL Correspondent "It is correct to say that the...

shafique

Yep - I chose which of the quotes to quote, shock horror! ;) I take your point that I didn't point out that the comments would be largely fanbois objecting - but that is par for the course for any article on the web that contradicts what Israeli govt headquarters puts out. In this thread, I've quote...

shafique

Naughty shafique - but this is what came to mind when I read your speculation that eh and Bob 'the huckster' may be the same person..

Guru loon and Mini-Me Loon?

shafique

Sorry to sort of ruin the joke - meals on wheels, excellent! Can you imagine the headlines on JihadWatch though - 'Moooslims train guide lions in secret plot to kill infidels' !! :) Perhaps we need to send out an ambulance to eh's place, he's probably still in shock at the news that Muslims in the U...

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