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The Ahmadis have had a mosque and community in Palestine since before Israel was founded - the mosque in Haifa is in a prominent location on a hill. Edit - here's a picture, and it says the first mosque there was built in 1931: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kababir Of course I condemn any religious d...

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FD isn't happy - but I'm glad to see that he's found a new interest in the fate of Kurds (although only just one post FD - c'mon, they could do with a bit more support) - and a couple of threads now on the fate of Ahmadi muslims. Have you run out of steam in the Israeli cheerleading efforts? ;) Talk...

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Err, did anyone spot where FD answered the question about evidence for Hamas wanting to kill religious minorities? (I might have missed the answer - so help me out guys) ;) BTW - clerics in occupied Palestine seem to like wishing death and destruction on others - eg. a Rabbi in the West Bank declare...

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^Ahh, the penny drops - sorry, a bit obscure for me - whilst I enjoyed Seinfeld, I guess my recollection isn't as encyclopaedic as yours!

Cheers,
Shafique

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Shaffy, your argument is with Mohammed Sharif Ouda, head of the Ahmadi community in Israel. Nope, my argument is with you over YOUR assertion that Hamas wants to kill Mr Ouda. Please look down and let us know whether you have any trousers! ;) But seriously, I know you're smarting over Israel's fias...

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I'm glad we both disagree with the Rabbi - and I guess we both would object if we used him to say that Bibi wanted to kill Gentile babies. So, I come to your assertion that Hamas wants to kill Ouda. I guess that if you had some evidence you would have produced it. The article you linked to did not m...

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Thanks. It does raise interesting issues - and ones discussed in Haaretz at length in the past few days. Today's editorial and separate piece by Levy are particularly interesting. (Editorial says blockade has failed and it is madness to continue, Levy turns his cross-hairs on Bibi Netanyahu) Finkels...

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Hey, I like to oblige and I'm pretty open about my views. I mean, eh now thinks twice about posting in the religion section! ;) You're right - perhaps I was being a bit harsh and assumed eh would jump to the defence of his fellow American Christians brethren and blame the mooslims. Kudos to him that...

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Sorry Rob, devil's advocate or not, DD's punked you there!

Cheers,
Shafique

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Interesting. I said 'Recommended' and asked what specifically you thought 'butchered' history in the documentary. It appears that you didn't actually watch it, but rather are quoting an un-named reviewer from another un-named site. Hmm. Anyway, let's see what this other reviewer is saying... (who kn...

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Well, it did happen in 1997 and in your country - and who knows how many more instances are kept hushed up by the Churches? As I said above, kudos for not even attempting to link this act by your fellow Christians to Islam! BTW - this took place in New Hampshire, and if my geography doesn't let me d...

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The victim said Phelps told her she would be put up for "church discipline," where parishioners go before the congregation to apologize for their sins.
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"He told me that I should be happy that I didn't live in Old Testament times because I would have been stoned."

shafique

I did a quick search and found the comment you posted above. Here it is in full: When the Moors Ruled in Europe Post by perplexedseeker on May 10, 2010, 9:58am I don't know if anyone else from the UK managed to see the recent documentary on the Moorish presence in Spain that was on Channel 4 last we...

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I read once that superman was in every episode of Seinfeld - not sure if that's an urban legend or not?

(BTW - what's interesting about this doc is that it goes behind the history that was written by the victors!

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benwj - far be it for me to support the Saudi authorities, but I have to say that I would be very surprised if the Saudis would harbour a rapist and make the rape victim apologise to a congregation (and cite the Quran in support of this stance). I certainly would not characterise this Church's actio...

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RobbyG wrote:I guess the Israeli's screwed up a few times along the way. (to say the least)

I'm impressed you kept up the act for as long as you did!

Cheers,
Shafique

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Yeah, I tracked down the posting - see my post above. I see that your being selective now quotes from posters called 'perplexedseeker' now too - and ignoring the fact that the guy you quoted actually said the documentary was good and overturned some stereotypes of Muslims/Islam - funny that. Do you ...

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Re 'Dark Ages' - at around 21min. Bethany Hughes says 'it was the start of what later Christian scholars would call the Dark Ages'. Pretty precise and accurate, and describes a specific time. Also the reference to Justinian closing down the Athenian schools of philosophy - that's accurate too (and s...

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I caught on quite early on, but played on a bit after this - for laughs.

I'm wondering whether the fanbois thought you were serious - they wisely didn't join with you, now THAT would have been funny.

Cheers,
Shafique

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I've done a bit more reading on the guy who runs the forum - James Hannam. Given his views, its hardly surprising that the small community on his site also share his view about the Medieval period. However, it is strange that you quote a reviewer that praises the documentary for overturning misconce...

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You're right FD. You'll recall though that there was vociferous condemnation of Egypts actions by humanitarian groups, and indeed Egypt is lumped in with Israel for helping enforce the world's largest concentration camp, as some call gaza (some are more charitable and just call it an open prison). B...

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As I said, Hughes was accurate and precise when she used the term Dark Ages in the documentary - not a lie, not a disputed fact. I suggest you re-read her exact words which I typed out. I suggest you do more reading before you embarrass yourself any further. You didn't follow my advice and read/che...

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^If Chuck Norris were a calendar, every month would be named Chucktober, and every day he'd kick your a.ss. Now, can we get back to 'Sea of Stupidity'? ;) Rob, here's a line you may find useful in future: An old Israeli saying describing various less-than-esteemed military leaders says: “He was so s...

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Hey eh - you're not from New Hampshire are you? I would have guessed you came from the deep south or other parts of the Bible belt - but given there are crazees up north as well, I guess we shouldn't jump to conclusions. I'd still do a friendly wager that you're Texan. (Where we know only s.....s an...

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eh - in the 'When the Moors ruled in Europe' thread you introduced us to James Hannam's website. Can I just do a quick fact check and see whether you disagree with his conclusions regarding the transmission of Greek works to Europe via Islamic translations: The truth I think is something like this. ...

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BTW, I can't fault much in his stance on evolution either... eh, anything in this that you disagree with? (I don't share his certainty that life will be created in the lab, for example, but his main logic is pretty much what I think too.) He seems to be an enlightened Christian and disagrees with th...

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benwj - far be it for me to support the Saudi authorities, but I have to say that I would be very surprised if the Saudis would harbour a rapist and make the rape victim apologise to a congregation (and cite the Quran in support of this stance). Generally speaking, yes. But I am sure that there are...

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An old Israeli saying describing various less-than-esteemed military leaders says: “He was so stupid that even the other generals noticed.” The same derisive remark could be applied almost without exception to the present generation of Israeli politicians. http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/comme...

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And just in case I'm accused of having a sense of humour failure, may I respectfully requote Mr Steel: Israel and its supporters claim that Viva Palestina, made up of people who collect the donated food, cement and items for providing basic amenities such as toilets, and transport them to Gaza, want...

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Well, I think the song they'll chant is more like: #You're not spinning, you're not spinning.. You're not spinning any more, any more!# :) (Sung in the key of 'irony' of course) It also seems that Finkelstein's explanation of why the crazeee generals/admirals decided to launch the botched operation ...

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