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I really don't get what the hue and cry is all about. This is just a bit of politiking more than anything else. They're probably just sending out a message via the additional minaret ban, This Belgium, the minaret ban was in Switzerland. ;) You're justification that this is really a dig at Middle E...

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I agree Bora - the political motivation for the action makes the most sense. My theory is that a man invented high heeled shoes for women - I mean why would a woman intentionally cause themselves discomfort for the sake of men? However, the genius part of it are the guys who persuaded women that it ...

shafique

Fascinating discussion. Legislating what someone can wear is now clearly a political and/or cultural issue, rather than something to do with safety or whatever else reason. Chocs - aren't you just arguing that it is ok to be intolerant of someone else if they look different from you? How is that dif...

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Well, for me the discussion has made it clear that a view that women should not be allowed to dress as they like in public is just a sign of intolerance of others, based on what they choose to wear. As Linda Heard concludes: If these bans were based primarily on security concerns, the Europeans woul...

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So as I keep saying, if you have nothing to hide, what's the big deal? How do you think most women would feel about a ban on all make-up? If they have 'nothing to hide, what's the big deal'? It will save money, time and the environment. It may even save some poor bunny rabbits (if they still test c...

shafique

^Good point - but hey, let the oldies also conform too!

But can you imagine the fuss the ladies would kick up if Norway, say, banned make-up - and said all ladies should go au naturel. (My wife would be one of the most voiciferous!)

Cheers,
Shafique

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These Hutaree, Christian Militia folks have now been released on bail http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/7c/Suspected_members_of_Hutaree_militia.jpg :shock: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/8658604.stm Nine alleged members of a radical US Christian militia group accused of plotting t...

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Shaf, you completely go off on a tangent! Wearing make-up you can still see someone's FACE!!!! That's the point! Really what is so hard about this for you to understand?! Why cover up your natural features - 'if you have nothing to hide, what is the problem'? C'mon - you surely can follow through o...

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OH FYI RB, the latest is women having bombs hidden inside breast implants - they're undetectable! ANother reason why the full body scanners are necessary. :lol: When you have to resort to quoting some imagined threat that someone dreamt up (and made into print) as 'fact' - I laugh even harder. You ...

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As I said before, stupid argument really as make-up does not 'obscure' your features, you can tell who someone is. You cannot compare the two. Seriously zero logic. Waste of time discussing it with you as you don't get it, aren't gonna get it. So, you're not going to join me in calling for a ban on...

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None comparable argument! So you disagree with my argument for banning make-up, even though you don't dispute it covers up a lady's natural features. How about banning full face prosethics which totally change one's appearance - that makes a thin woman look fat, or an asian woman look white? Wouldn...

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Nope as I said, this is the reason the full body scanners are being introduced because it is literally the only way to detect them, and why people kicked off at 'certain' people when they said they'd refuse to use them. Sorry but again for security reasons, NO-ONE is exempt. Chocs - you shouldn't b...

shafique

^Tell that to the miners. History shows that all the warnings Scargill gave came true ;) But, hey - at least she took it on the chin for the Poll Tax fiasco - that was all her, and not her cabinet's fault. This election is truly fascinating - who will Clegg go with if it is a hung parliament - eithe...

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Yeah well they didn't listen to Enoch Powell's 'Rivers of Blood' speech either regarding immigration - and now look at us!!!! I want someone with the balls to squash all this nonsense. Yeah,I agree - the place is awash with over-stayers - i.e. illegal immigrants. The main culprits are South African...

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Now I've bowed out of the debate over whether we should ban Avon ladies or not.. here's a less controversial subject..: A study is apparently claiming that the paedophillia in the Catholic church is being blown out of proportion, has nothing to do with celibacy and merely reflects the general social...

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^ Yes, Bora, it was said tongue in cheek. You seem to agree with the report in that it is a problem of society as a whole and not limited to the Catholic church and celibate priests. (Edit - I don't have any insights either way.. but I would have guessed that celibacy must have had something to do w...

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No it's not that. There's no issue with the people that come and work hard and contribute and pay NI and all the rest of it. But it's the ones who come in, get free housing, free health care and dole money. So, it is the legal immigrants who get dole money that you object to. Strange that - I thoug...

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^Well, the main immigration from the commonwealth was from the West Indies and the Indian sub-continent - without these workers, the NHS, transport and other sectors would ground to a halt. But the point was when they came in, it was all done legally and for the benefit of Britain. The illegal over-...

shafique

^ To be fair Berrin, celibacy in Christianity was a later innovation that not all Christian churches follow. But I guess you knew that

Cheers,
Shafique

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Well, that's EU laws for you. Brits can go and live in the South of France and use the medical facilities etc there, the wives of Danish citizens can claim benefits anywhere in the EU.. Would the Mail kick up a fuss if the couple were blond, blue-eyed Danes? Perhaps, perhaps not. The judges at the E...

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Chocs - no one, to my knowledge, has ever estimated the number of 'illegal immigrants' that will come to the UK. You're not, by any chance, confusing the issue of the estimates of EU citizens who would come to work in the UK (legally) after their countries joined the EU? Quite a few Spaniards and Fr...

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Chocs - ok, I see your point. Migrantwatch's estimates of illegal immigrants are indeed greatly in excess of the previous ones. They are still estimates though and my other points still apply - that the drain on resources etc are actually a feature of legal migrants who have rights to stay in the UK...

shafique

^I guess we'll have to ensure we have a good supply of platinum blonde 'models' then?!

Cheers,
Shafique

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Hey, don't get me wrong - I'm all for getting rid of free loaders. I totally agree that it is an issue that transcends colour and creed. I'm an equal opportunity nationalist - kick out the main body of culprits first and you can get some English kids working bars again and off the streets.. ;) I als...

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You don't need a law to say that people need to show their faces at immigration - isn't that already a regulation that can be enforced. What I am still waiting for is any cogent argument why a mother can't play with her kids in the park whilst wearing a burqa (why this should be illegal). The only a...

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Chocs' link that previous estimates of illegal immigrants are an underestimate got me thinking. There have been studies estimating the benefits that an amnesty of illegals will bring to the UK, but these were based on lower estimates than the 1m in the migrantwatch survey. Ergo - more illegal immigr...

shafique

It may not be a law as yet in Belgium, but it is the law in Italy. Although the law says "inside public buildings, schools and hospitals" she was stopped on the street in front of a post office (this from another article) on her way to the mosque. Note the interpretation of woman wearing ...

shafique

Interesting that the guy says his wife would therefore only be allowed to wear the burqua 'at home'. Surely she would not need to wear it in the home as he should know what she looks like? He claims that Islam is firm in that no other man is able to look upon his wife? Is that true? I was under the...

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RC - in my experience, Muslim women tend to go over-board (in my opinon) with make up and beauty treatments - and I've seen no indication that they value beauty less than any non-Muslim women. It's not a question of choice over what is considered 'beauty' but rather a question of who this display of...

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RC - I should have made it clear, the women I said put on less make up when going out are just a few examples that I know of - the rest are more like the women I referred to in my first line - i.e. that they go 'overboard' with the make up. I'd agree with you with the perfume bit as well. I suspect ...

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