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I am glad you are joining forces with the Muslims of Quilliam to clarify what Islam is actually about. Who did you write to at the UN? Did you copy in Quilliam? As for marital rape - it is a shame that Islam channel is saying something that Christians outlawed a few decades ago - I mean, do they sti...

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So, now we've established that God does not allow wife battery but only corporal punishment after the above steps - how can this verse be used by Muslim women (or Coptic Egyptian women) to condone being hit in anger by their husbands? If it isn"t the Quran and Bible - then there is another fact...

shafique

You quote God saying the sun and the moon have regular orbits - or constant courses. How do you get 'God says sun orbits the earth' from this? If you quote the surrounding verses, Gid also says that night and day have been subjected to you. Therefore it is pretty clear that God is just describing Hi...

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I disagree with you and Craig - and agree with Kung that God is the same and that He loves all creation I including sinners. If God is the same, then His attributes did not change from when Jesus was praying to God to when Muhammad did the same. God whilst loving all creation also diapproves of acts...

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The Quran does not address thus point at all. There is no mention of the events of the Passion - the trial etc. God only addresses the claim made by Jews that they killed Jesus. God says that Jesus was not put to death by hanging on the cross (I.e. He wasn't crucified) but was made to appear like on...

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Yes _ the Prophet, pbuh, marry his cousin after her divorce. He had arranged her marriage with his adopted son and felt responsible when the marriage broke down. Muslims view his example of marrying divorcees as being ahead of it's time - most societies would not condone divorce for at least a mille...

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LoL - this from the lad who condones enslaving virgins and slaughtering civilians.

But thanks for quoting what God says and confirming my point that wife battery is not condoned by God.

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

Yes - it is good indeed that Christians have recently decided to ignore the Biblical verses which tell women to submit to their husbands!

But what is really encouraging is that you are now quoting Muslim groups who speak out against Wahabbi Saudi inspired messages.

Well done.

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

Ah - nice attempt at deflection. But thanks again for quoting Muslims who are speaking out against Wahabism. You did realise that Quilliam was a Muslim think tank - didn't you? (And thanks also for not denying what the Bible tells women to do - to submit to their husbands) Well done Cheers Shafique

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Cool. You didn't tell us though who in the UN you wrote to and whether you copied in the Muslim think tank Quilliam. I am glad that despite your otherwise extreme views, you are now siding with Muslims who denounce wahabism (but you seem to be in denial that Muslims oppose wahabism, despite your quo...

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You guys are having fun - don't let me interrupt too much. Robby - I just wanted to ask you about your statement that the London bombers decided to kill because of their religion. As far as all the evidence I've seen, their motivation was actually Britain's foreign policy which was resulting in the ...

shafique

Thanks for illustrating perfectly why a resolution indeed was needed. Do you think Christianity is to blame for the Biblical war crimes being commited by the Christian LRA (murder and enslaving virgins as s.ex slaves)? Is Judaism to blame for the cold blooded killing of worshippers carried out by an...

shafique

Bravo!!! It has finally sunk in that Muslims don't agree with eh's wild interpretations of God's words. Indeed, he even doesn't deny that Christians ignore the verses used to oppredd women and deny them the vote, inheritance etc until recently (and more than a millenium after Islam). So it is excell...

shafique

However, did you tell us who you wrote to at the UN and whether you are coordinating with Quilliam??

shafique

This question by eh was asked in the thread about the Bible's claim that the earth stopped rotating. It is being moved here and I will deal with it in the next post It's interesting how you ignore what the passages in the Koran (and my questions to you) actually say. Again, which scientific textbook...

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It's interesting how you ignore what the passages in the Koran (and my questions to you) actually say. Which particular passage have I ignored? Again, which scientific textbook says that the sun orbits with respect to the earth? Which scientific textbook says the sun does not rise and set, and foll...

shafique

I disagree with you and Craig - and agree with Kung that God is the same and that He loves all creation I including sinners. If God is the same, then His attributes did not change from when Jesus was praying to God to when Muhammad did the same. God whilst loving all creation also diapproves of act...

shafique

I'm on your side 'eh' - I am pleased you have now made the transition from unreformed orientalist to someone who quotes Muslim reports which criticism Wahabism. Well done. You however seem a bit confused - are you now arguing that the Wahabism that the report (and Quilliam generally) are critical of...

shafique

Nowhere does God say the sun orbits the earth. God's words are quite clear and are in accordance with science - the sun and moon have fixed/defined courses. All Mouth, No Trousers. Anyway, now we are free to see what your scientific explanation is in the other thread. Thus far it has been a very goo...

shafique

I'm agreeing with you and Quilliam that Wabhisim is not Islam. As I said, I'm so glad that you are now agreeing with Muslims now. I also agree with you that the Christians are indeed wise to ignore the misogynistic verses of the NT which say a woman should submit to her husband (likening him to Chri...

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Thirteen airstrikes.

Like shooting fish in a barrel.

And the reason - two Israeli soldiers were killed last week (in Gaza!).

The Israelis aren't happy and are acting like it.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I'm agreeing with you and Quilliam that Wabhisim is not Islam. ... But, why are you avoiding the question I've asked a few times now: I also note you haven't answered the question about who in the UN you wrote to and whether you informed Quilliam. Surely it would be a courtesy to let them know you ...

shafique

Of course I agree with science and the Quran - both say quite clearly that the sun, moon etc have fixed orbits relative to other heavenly bodies. Did you really not learn this in school? Which particular bit of science do you disagree with - that the sun rises and sets each day? Or do you believe th...

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Hey, I'm just pointing out the obvious here. You're claiming the NT is misogynist because you think that wives are to submit to their husbands Well, let's see what the NT says - perhaps the translation is wrong? Ephesians says: 5:22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord....

shafique

^ Those Chinese - they get everywhere!

shafique

Sheriff John Brown always hated me,
For what, I don't know:
Every time I plant a seed,
He said kill it before it grow -
He said kill them before they grow.

How appropriate.

shafique

Hey, Tom - have you read 'Letter to a Christian Nation' by Sam Harris? It's quite a short book. Here's the blurb from his website: Letter to A Christian Nation In response to The End of Faith, Sam Harris received thousands of letters from Christians excoriating him for not believing in God. Letter t...

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Ok, let's start again with the quote from 'God Delusion' by Richard Dawkins which details an instance of a NT story developing over time. He gives references to other books (Eg Richard Lane Fox on the Bible - btw, I recommend his book 'The Classical World' which I'm reading at the moment). Anyway, t...

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^

Which reminds me - Chuck Norris once delivered a flying kick to a horse's chin. Now its descendants are known as Giraffes.

Cheers,
Shafique

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