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shafique

Fascinating. Perhaps the Israelis are also aware that Muslims often speak out of both corners of their mouths? If that IS what they think - perhaps that would explain why they are the ones who have been caught out in a lie. Notably, you don't address the fact that the Israelis have been caught out ...

shafique

As I said, given you are more extreme a religious fanatic than Al Qaeda - it is no surprise you find ways to justify those carry out injustices.

You seem to hate Muslims and Islam though - and haven't confirmed yet whether you are proud to be more extreme than AQ.

shafique

Contrast with the questions you're avoiding about the Bible's contention that the Sun stopped in it's course. The Bible it appears violates the law of physics , whilst God's words in the Quran are 100% in accordance with science. Better luck next time. Why are you not defending the Bible? The scien...

shafique

God says adultery is not allowed. Kung says s.ex outside of marriage is not allowed.

'eh' says God allows s.ex outside of marriage.

Hmm. Am I missing something?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Well, if the God is the same, His attributes will be the same. God of Muhammad, pbuh, is Rahman - the one who loves all creation. I know you want to deny this attribute - but Kung clearly shows that his conclusion is that the God of Muhammad is the same God of Jesus and Moses. Ergo, Craig is the one...

shafique

Happy to share my views about what Dawkins writes. I guess me and all Christians, Muslims and Jews are 'no different from Al Qaeda' for believing Abraham was not a nutter. Do you have a different view? (I know that I disagree with AQ on the killing of civilians - but you're more extreme than them on...

shafique

:mrgreen: Hey, so you want to change the subject and not address the topic of this thread - which is 'Biblical War Crimes'. So, you don't deny the fact that you are condoning a genocide and are more extreme a religious fanantic than Al Qaeda. The question you are avoiding though is: Are you proud of...

shafique

An excellent article from Haaretz from a couple of days ago - before Netanyahu made his statements that building won't be stopped in Jerusalem. Levy makes a very good point in the article, which resonated with me (because we've had numerous debates over whether the South Africans etc are right to us...

shafique

Well, if the God is the same, His attributes will be the same. God of Muhammad, pbuh, is Rahman - the one who loves all creation. I know you want to deny this attribute - but Kung clearly shows that his conclusion is that the God of Muhammad is the same God of Jesus and Moses. .. The question for y...

shafique

I've addressed the Quranic quotes (as being totally in line with science) Are you ashamed of what the Bible says (that the sun was stopped in its course)? I've also addressed the splitting of the moon in another thread (happy to do so again), but it hasn't gone unnoticed that you are bringing a new...

shafique

God says adultery is not allowed. Kung says s.ex outside of marriage is not allowed. 'eh' says God allows s.ex outside of marriage. Hmm. Am I missing something? :) Nope, not missing anything - God is quite clear, Kung is just as clear. You are the one that seems confused - nothing new here. Cheers,...

shafique

Interesting that you don't deny that you're a more extreme religious fanatic than Al Qaeda for condoning slaughter of innocents and the enslavement of virgins. But what's with the new fantasy now about what zionists haven't done? Do all religious fanatics have these strange logical traits? ;) Cheers...

shafique

I didn't see that in the Haaretz report, that was dealing with the 21st century Israeli crimes. :) I do condemn any killing/attack against civilians - and therefore am different from you in that you condone the slaughter of civilians and the enslavement of virgins (making you more extreme religious ...

shafique

Is the God Jesus prayed to different from the one Moses prayed to?

If not, then there is no difference in God's attributes between the three religions - as Kung concludes.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

God says s.ex outside of marriage is not allowed, as does Kung.

It is only you that says otherwise - and we know you like to think you are right. But then again, you have the most extreme religious views of all the posters here.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I'm not denying anything - I'm merely pointing out that the Quran's descriptions of natural events are 100% in accordance with science.

You are the one that seems to be ashamed of the Bible's description of the sun stopping in its tracks.

Why is that?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

If you want to start a thread about God causing suffering - fair enough, do so. There's a lot of suffering caused by God - from cancers, accidents, plagues, earthquakes etc - but I don't agree with you that these natural disasters as the same as Israelites enslaving virgins and slaughtering people i...

shafique

shafique wrote:However, are you ashamed of your views of what he says about the Bible?

Why else would you be avoiding the two quotes I've given and the questions about them?:

Are you ashamed, or do you just have no answers?

shafique

Hey, I'm not the one who says it is ok for 32,000 virgins to be enslaved after their families have been slaughtered - that's you my friend. You haven't answered my question - are you proud that you are more extreme a religious fanatic than Al Qaeda? Are you too ashamed to answer? Back in the 21st ce...

shafique

Given you disagree with most people on what constitutes a crime and what doesn't - I'm not surprised you are now stating that Haaretz is wrong and your evaluation of the IDF crimes is right. I asked you before - is it only massacres carried out by Israelites that you condone? I perhaps should extend...

shafique

Ahh, I think I have my answer to the question I posed: quoting what he has to say about the Bible and science - it will be great to see if you agree with him or not (But to be fair, I only quoted Dawkins listing God's attributes and his revelation that the nativity story was made up centuries after ...

shafique

Wow - talk about a back-peddle!

But thanks for proving me right - you started this thread quoting 'Professor Richard Dawkins' but ended up disowning him when you realised that you can't address his criticisms of the Bible (in 'God Delusion' thread)

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

So, does that mean the attribues that Dawkins ascribes to the God of the OT apply to the god of the Koran? Dawkins is only quoting the OT, and this is being discussed in 'God delusion' thread. Where the Quran agrees with the OT accounts, then yes, the Quran agrees with those attributes of God. Wher...

shafique

No, I'm not ashamed of the Quran. Are you ashamed of the Bible? I'll happily address your new objections - but first let's deal with your outstanding question about whether Science can explain the sun being stopped in its tracks: Contrast with the questions you're avoiding about the Bible's contenti...

shafique

No, I'm quite clear about what I'm saying:

God says s.ex outside of marriage is not allowed. Kung says God says s.ex outside of marriage is not allowed (he says so explicitly).

'eh' says Islam allows adultery.

Spot the difference?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I admit, I'm a bit surprised that you would agree with Dawkins. Well, you are the one that decided to quote Dawkins. I make it a point to read a person's arguments and don't backpeddle and launch ad hominem attacks (but then again, perhaps that is because I tackle the arguments/views they have). I ...

shafique

'eh' - did you ever get round to watching the video?

shafique

You and your fantasies again. :roll: You haven't answered my question - are you proud that you are more extreme a religious fanatic than Al Qaeda? Are you too ashamed to answer? I'm guessing that most other posters here will agree with me in condemning all attacks against civilians - regardless of w...

shafique

Be fair Berrin - he learnt these things at Bible camp in the US, so he's not totally to blame for believing the likes of Spencer above. There will also be some bitter former Muslims who will also cheer him on (although they seem to be unable to put together a coherent defence in the 'most extreme re...

shafique

Perhaps it is seeing beyond the obvious - seeing things that are hidden to others.... like finding Waldo.

And we all know - Chuck Norris is the reason Waldo is hiding!

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