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We've acknowledged that you equate Acts of God with the war crimes of the Israelites. We've told you that you won't convince us to join you in equating a natural disaster with cold blooded massacres and rapes by humans. Why are you avoiding the logical conclusion of your views?: I understand you hav...

shafique

The point in this thread is that Israel is actually breaking international law in East Jerusalem in seeking to consolidate the illegal annexation. Two wrongs don't make a right - and here the ones in the wrong are clearly those who are breaking international law. As for the survey above, again you g...

shafique

Perhaps FD and eh missed this reference above. No comments?

shafique wrote:Well, back to the subject of East Jerusalem protests.

The Israeli regime has been caught out in a lie:
http://coteret.com/2010/03/15/yediot-ex ... -protests/

shafique

Unfortunately, the sad fact is that the region is propped up by the US and not the other way round. The 'success' seems to be being measured in material gains - and bizarely seems to be measured by how much like the US (as portrayed on TV and hollywood) we can make this corner of the world become. I...

shafique

How is exposing a blatant lie by the Israelis 'blatant propaganda'? The lie exposed by the Yediot article is what I linked to: Fortuitously, also on Sunday, Yediot published photographic evidence of blatant lying by the police regarding another incident East Jerusalem incident on Friday: The running...

shafique

Out of the mouths of babes: Poll: 46% of high-schoolers don't want equality for Arabs Some 81% of religious students said they would refuse to evacuate settlements, versus 36% of secular counterparts. Every second student is opposed to granting right to vote to Arabs, and 32% don't want Arab friends...

shafique

And the politicians don't seem to be much better: Report: Current Knesset most racist of all time Much beyond loyalty bill and Nakba Law, annual racism report issued by Mossawa Center states 21 bills deemed 'discriminatory and racist' laid on legislature's table in 2009, a 75% increase since previou...

shafique

:mrgreen: I'm not avoiding your question - I'm just waiting for you to post Dawkin's words about Abraham before I can comment on them. I said I may agree or disagree. However, you seem to running away from his actual quotes which I've given. There's a pattern emerging eh! So, just to be clear - the ...

shafique

Was my question difficult? He quotes the Quran there and gives you the references for the attributes of God. Rahman, as we've pointed out before, is also dealt with. The conclusion is that the one and only God is common to all three religions. If you disagree, you can quote him and show where he's w...

shafique

No, I actually aced science. ;) So Contrast with the questions you're avoiding about the Bible's contention that the Sun stopped in it's course. The Bible it appears violates the law of physics , whilst God's words in the Quran are 100% in accordance with science. Better luck next time. 'nuff said

shafique

You say tomato..

The bottom line is you haven't been able to back up your wild assertion that God allows adultery. Better luck next time.

Kung's statement is pretty categorical - s.ex outside marriage - not allowed.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Bumped the message below - it appears 'eh' is avoiding acknowledging that he is more extreme a religious fanatic than Al Qaeda!

shafique

There undoubtedly is DK - however, their marketing isn't as good as the Israelis who routinely deny and denounce as anti-semitic all those who point out the racist actions and laws. However, it is the hypocrisy that gets most decent people's goats - there is one side who is violation of internationa...

shafique

Still avoiding the inconvenient facts, eh 'eh'?

You apparently haven't read the surveys in 'Israel unappolgetically racially profiles' - put those results in your pipe...

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Well, those kids jailed for throwing stones at least know what they are being held for - there are 259 Palestinians currently (as of end of Feb) who are just held hostage - without charge or trial (no children under 18 currently being held hostage - but 41 kids under 16 in custody as of 28 Feb): htt...

shafique

An editorial from Haaretz concludes: In this the IDF harms not only one of the basic values of democratic rule, the freedom to demonstrate, but also discriminates in its policy, granting excessive liberty to lawless settlers while being heavy-handed with leftist protesters. The IDF order is therefor...

shafique

Perhaps Herve had something to do with the fabricated stories!

The Dubai guys have a lot to learn about spinning a story!!

(Just kidding Herve)

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Probably a good idea to make some of the conclusions of our discussions a sticky - however, this thread is about a new item - an editorial on the new tactic of the Israeli government. Therefore, it's not an old subject and worthy of a new thread. You will note that I didn't start a new thread for th...

shafique

And ignored all the verses where God talks about adultery.

As I said, Kung has hit the nail on the head - s.ex outside of marriage is not allowed.

All Mouth, No Trousers - again.

shafique

God says the Moon and Sun follow orbits relative to the earth and other heavenly bodies. Which science textbook says this is wrong?

Now, which science textbook agrees with the Bible which says the sun can stop in it's tracks?

Quran 1. Bible 0.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Ah, the ostrich defence again.

Kung says it is the same God (as Christianity and Judaism) and explains what God's attributes are (and gives Quranic references).

Do you disagree with Kung that the God of the Quran is the same as the God of Moses and Jesus?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Fair enough - post the youtube link and I'll watch and comment. You can do that in another thread - this one is about his book, 'The God delusion'. My quotes are verbatim and referenced in full. My questions to you remain unanswered: So, just to be clear - the two points we're waiting for you replie...

shafique

So the virgins weren't raped (and you say I have an active imagination!) ? If they were, would you then condemn the Israelite's for enslaving 32,000 virgins after slaughtering in cold blood the non-virgins? But the point is that you don't deny you are a more extreme religious fanatic than Al Qaeda b...

shafique

You said God allows adultery, and yet don't quote any verse about adultery.

Kung says s.ex outside marriage is not allowed.

All Mouth, No Trousers - again.

shafique

So Contrast with the questions you're avoiding about the Bible's contention that the Sun stopped in it's course. The Bible it appears violates the law of physics , whilst God's words in the Quran are 100% in accordance with science. Better luck next time. Why are you not defending the Bible? The sci...

shafique

Yes, the evidence is in the quotes I've referred you to. Kung says that the God of Muhammad is the same God of Jesus and Moses. He also quotes the Quran in terms of His attributes - notably Rahman. Do you disagree with Kung that the God of the Quran is the same as the God of Moses and Jesus? If you ...

shafique

Thanks, that wasn't too hard was it? I disagree with his conclusions that Abrahams actions were abhorent: To my mind, its message about both God and Abraham is abhorrent, and has the potential for great evil. My view is exactly what he says religious people believe - i.e. that the action is: conside...

shafique

I'm pretty sure he'll confirm you're a more extreme religious fanatic than Al Qaeda for condoning what Professor Yehuda Bauer says was a genocide - based on the empirical fact you are condoning the enslavement of virgins after the Israelites committed the genocide. Do you think otherwise? Are you pr...

shafique

In this the IDF harms not only one of the basic values of democratic rule, the freedom to demonstrate, but also discriminates in its policy, granting excessive liberty to lawless settlers while being heavy-handed with leftist protesters. The IDF order is therefore a revolting and ridiculous act, an...

shafique

You didn't actually read the two articles about the surveys, did you 'eh'?

Cheers,
Shafique

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