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shafique

You and your fantasies again. First there are indeed Christian scientists who insist the universe is a few thousand years old - just google 'young earth creationists' - they even have a theme park in the states expounding this biblical fact. As for muslims believing the earth is flat - I wouldn't ca...

shafique

Yes.

It does not contradict what God says about adultery - and your contentiion that gos allows s.ex outside marriage reqiures you to ignore what god says about adultery and fantastically extrapolate from this verse.

All mouth, no trousers. Again.

shafique

They'd have to ban Russians wouldn't they - I didn't think Chechnya was an independent country (or is it?)

I can think of many reasons why Dubai may not want to do this!

But the boy has a point - they should also ban those killing Chechens.

shafique

The cnn article ends by stating the Israelis are saying this guy is 'exagerating' - so why would I trust the juicier parts of his story? Suffice to say if anyone is torturing like Israel did (with judicial approval until it was revoked), then they too are condemned by me. As for 1973, there the Isra...

shafique

I agree about official statements. My comment above was really just to contrast the official line before the 67 war and the feeling in73. All accounts I've read say israel was shocked at the initial gains by Egypt. I've found one article about declassified docs in 2006 relating to 67..I'll start a t...

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From sfgate (sorry haven't figured out how to post the link using the bb browser) New lessons from the Six-Day War / Documents show complex history before first shot June 11, 2006|By Sandy Tolan Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert's unilateral "Convergence" plan, which would permanently f...

shafique

The article says the 100,000 figure for Egyptian troops in Sinai was an Israeli figure and was inflated. And Mossad telling the US that the war wiould be over in days - BEFORE the war says it all. But that said, the attack against the Egyptians was decisive and brilliant - it's just that the spin no...

shafique

I have to admit that I am very sceptical about these types of claims - but as this one is news to me I will happily let eh present his counter arguments before making up my mind finally. When I read that verse I thought that because the structure was made of brick - there would be no trace or only t...

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Eh - are you happy with the fact that both you and Al Qaeda want to persuade people that you are right yo condone the massacres of people as long as 'god orders it' is an excuse? I can only repeat that I do not condemn acts of God and cannot join you in condoning the enslavement and rape of 32000 vi...

shafique

Have you even read what God says about adultery? If so, why do you refuse to quote Him and justify your fantastic interpretation that God allows s.ex outside of marriage. I really can't help you if you refuse to look at the verses relating adultery when making a ludicrous claim that God allows s.ex ...

shafique

Nice attempt at diverting attention away from the topic in the thread titile and the fact you are the ONLY person who is condoning the enslavement of virgins by the Israelites. You don't challenge the fact that this makes you MORE extreme a religious fanatic than Bin Laden - he just agrees with you ...

shafique

Nice attempt at diverting attention away from the topic in the thread titile and the fact you are the ONLY person who is condoning the enslavement of virgins by the Israelites. You don't challenge the fact that this makes you MORE extreme a religious fanatic than Bin Laden - he just agrees with you...

shafique

But you are the only person we know that condones the Biblical war crime of the Israelites where they enslaved and raped 32,000 virgins after slaughtering in cold blood their families and friends (of the virgins). You are more extreme than the mad mullahs!!

shafique

More scandals hit the catholics - and a Church official makes the point (or excuse) that it is a problem with society., not just the church. Vatican forced to defend itself over abuse cases 10 March 10 10:27 GMT By Robert Pigott BBC News religious affairs correspondent As accusations of historic s...

shafique

My view (not having yet read the links though) is that this is classic conspiracy theory which is over-reaching and just ignoring a simpler truth. The problems of the Muslim ummah lies with the Ummah - and a cursory examination of British treatment vis a vis religions shows that the claim they are b...

shafique

I have to say that I'm not convinced that keeping chaste before marriage and faithful afterwards leads necessarily to homos.exual behaviour as the only way to satsfy animal urges. I think society can learn to restrain the urges - we do it for other urges (stealing, paedophillia etc) Also, we should ...

shafique

Berrin - the question eh is avoidng (one of many) is wherther he agrees with or rejects the clear message in Matthew that it was NOT Pilate who was responsible for killing Jesus, but rather the Jews who said that his killing would be on their heads (and their children). Given that eh is more extreme...

shafique

Yes - it is clear you only support the slaughter of non-virgins and the enslavement of virgins. That's what makes you more extreme a religious fanatic than Al Qaeda. You both justify slaughter in the name of religion - but you agree with keeping the vigins for the use of the Israelites (those who sl...

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It is interesting that you don't deny you are more extreme a religous fanatic than Al Qaeda - but appear to be trying to recruit other numpties to your ideology - why else go to such lengths to justify the slaughter in the first post? Are you proud to support this war crime? Nice attempt at divertin...

shafique

Yes, you are quite clear about why you are more extreme in your views than Al Qaeda, I asked whether you accepted this fact and whether you were proud of being more radical than they are?

shafique

I note eh soesn't dispute he is more extreme than al qaeda - perhaps he is proud of this fact?

See Berrin, even after making it clear that the question is about whether Matthew is right to absolve Pilate, the question is avoided (he just seems to be now questioning which Jews took responsibility)

shafique

Oh dear, eh is off on one of his orientalist islamophobic cuts and pastes again. God unconditionally loving mankind is a central part of Islam - it is part of Him being 'Raheem' which means providing all necessities without having being asked - including love. This is usually translated as 'gracious...

shafique

Does your Bible not have Matthew absolving Pilate and putting the responsibility on the Jews (and their children)? Or do you just reject waht Matthew says and blame Pilate? Strange that you are ok with Israelites killing civilians because it is the Bible, but deny Matthew when he says Pilate was not...

shafique

Well we agree that punishes sinners and rewards those who follow His laws. God also loves all creations.

So what's with the repetition/pasting of orientalist views of Islam?

Did you not look up what Prof Kung has to say?

shafique

Now what did I tell you about just quoting guys instead of addressing the simple point that the orientalist view of Islam is outated now. God tells us His attributes in the Quran and we don't have your luxury of rejecting what God says in our scripture - as you seem to be doing by blaming Pilate whe...

shafique

Just a clarification eh - does your theology state that God unconditionally loves religious fanatics who kill civilians and rape virgins, or who blow themselves up in cafes?

Will He not punish these terrorists that you condone(if they do these crimes in the name of God)?

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

Well, let's not forget that eh insists that the Lord's Resistance Army in Uganda are Christian terrorists (I argued they were converts to a weird cult). Compared to the numpty Tim McVeigh wannabes - the LRA are a very nasty bunch of real terrorists. Fascinating that eh preferred to claim them for Ch...

shafique

Let me state the obvious once more. Matthew states that Pilate did not want to kill Jesus and that he washed his hands of the affair after the Jews chose to release Barabas instead if Jesus. The Jews took full responsibility for the killing of Jesus. You seem to be calling Matthew a liar when you re...

shafique

^

Many a wise word!

shafique

A 40 year old 'insurgency' in India recently makes the news when scores of soldiers are killed. The grievance seems to be that the government is not doing enough for the local 'tribal' people - but there's a passing reference to the region being 'mineral rich'. There seems to be a number of these ty...

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Re: Islam and concubinage - master and slave girl relationships

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1967 war - US docs declassified

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Re: Secrets of Pyramids in Quran

Re: Biblical war crimes

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Re: Biblical war crimes

Re: Islam and concubinage - master and slave girl relationships

Church s.ex scandals

Re: Is Wahhabism propagated by the British Empire?

Re: Church s.ex scandals

Re: For Eh- Qur’an 9:5-Kill the disbelievers wherever you find ?

Re: Islam and concubinage - master and slave girl relationships

Re: Biblical war crimes

Re: Biblical war crimes

Re: For Eh- Qur’an 9:5-Kill the disbelievers wherever you find ?

Re: Eh- Are you a born sinner or a "Born Again"

Re: For Eh- Qur’an 9:5-Kill the disbelievers wherever you find ?

Re: Eh- Are you a born sinner or a "Born Again"

Re: Eh- Are you a born sinner or a "Born Again"

Re: Eh- Are you a born sinner or a "Born Again"

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