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bump - more for the first article and references to Terrorism, rather than eh's attempts to define the meaning of Islam.

This is in light of the recent fatwa against terrorism being discussed in the politics section.

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Shafique

shafique

You say tomato... I asked whether you thought that we didn't understand the 'official' line the first time you posted it? Do you think there will be any more clarity if you repeat it again? I just said let's compare your 'facts' with what the Israeli military said in their internal assessments. Chee...

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Fair point, let us know what your view is after you've read more than the one page which states Cook is up to the old trick of selective quoting. How about the question about the fatwa against terrorism (rather than the discussion about jihad) - do you agree with the Fatwa that says Islam teaches th...

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Indeed - these Islamists are resistance fighters fighting a just war against the brutal Hamas government - which, according to HRW, tortures political opponents and silences the media in Gaza.\ Yes, these 'resistance fighters' are blowing up Hamas controlled hairdressers where men are working - or ...

shafique

Why the obsession with hypotheticals about Israel? I'm asking you about Israel's actual war crimes. Have you come out and said you condemn the eviction of the Muslims of the Maghreb quarter yet? I didn't think so. Your silence speaks volumes. But why don't you answer your own question - if Israel do...

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I forgot to say earlier - see the thread 'Islam and Terrorism' in the religion forum (bumped earlier today) for an article with Quranic and Hadith quotes explaining what Islam's stance on terrorism is.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Mythomaniac - that's a good one - that's the wittiest ad hominem attack on this forum.

shafique

Hey - sounds like a good idea to me.

However, I think telephone lines and Catholic priests are a sore point at the moment given the revelations of the gay s.ex ring in Rome recently! (Eh - you're not Catholic are you?

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Given we were not counting those indirectly killing civilians (such as Blair, Bush), your count remains at 4. I would have a problem estimating the numbers of civilians killed as a result of born-again Christian Bush and Catholic convert Blair have indirectly caused - so I'd rather not change the ru...

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Facts above do indicate a deliberate decision to commit the war crime against the US. What was being covered up was the fact a land grab was going on - especially for the water in Golan. RG you are right - the stats do show Israel was outnumbered, and your conclusions based on this haven't been addr...

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Whilst mildly amusing (I have young children so am used to childish humour) - I am abit worried that you are now fantasising about me being short and fat!

Don't your peers think this is a bit weird - I mean they all think about going on their first dates don't they?

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

The reason this fatwa (and previous ones) were needed is because there are some Muslims who do indeed believe and act like Baruch Goldstein and his supporters _- I..e. It is meritorious to kill civilians and martyr yourself as long as you do it in the name of religion. Jews and Muslims therefore hav...

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Well, as you asked - yes, I do indeed condemn the war crime against the Liberty - the facts as presented are pretty persuasive. I wonder whether anyone will defend the crime or refute the evidence above? (The usual tactics at this stage will be to either a. Change the subject, b. Ignore the question...

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Eh - did yiu read the previous fatwas referred to in the article in the first post?

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Shafique

shafique

Credit is due to FD - he doesn't believe a war crime was commited and says so. I'm with Robby on this one - clearly a war crime based on the evidence presented by those who were there. As for whether I believe the stats presented negate the internal Israeli military assessment - for this discussion ...

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I can't do your excellent post justice on my blackberry - so will wait write a fuller reply next week. My view is that you need to go back to even more basic economics - and examine the definition of money. As a store of wealth and as a means of exchange - money is a tool or proxy for something else...

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I do - but not when they commit war crimes or slaughter civilians (or enslave virgins) - and don't allow religous fanaticism to excuse actual crimes. But then again, I understand that guys who share your views say it is ok for palestinian underdogs to blow up civilians because they think god allows ...

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It is true, I have asked you whether you are an only child, pondered whether your acne has cleared up, whether you believe in Rapture, condone only massacres carried out by Israelites etc etc So I guess I should answer the question whether I am short and fat :) But I'm stll pissing myswlf with laugh...

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I don't know of any Muslims who advoicate that creationism should be taught alongside other scientific theories of the creation of the earth - it is the US bible believers who say this, and many of them think the earth is only a few thousand years old and base this on the Bible. I guess they too bel...

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Chicken

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The fact remains though that it is only Christian Bible 'literalists' that want creationism to be treated as science _whereas Muslim scientists were never subject to condemnation for pointing out scientific facts. Dawkins has an issue with anyone believing in God. I recommend Dawkin's book 'the God ...

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As I said, it only the Christian church which has been at odds with science when it took the Biblical accounts literally -Galileo for example. Muslim scientists have never been held back from scientific advancement by the Quran and today it is only the Christians who take the Bible literally that in...

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Herve should take notes - to makr the big bucks you have to 'exagerate' your importance and tell the yanks what they believe already! If you change your religion to boot you'll be on a great winner! ;) (And don't worry about contradicting historical facts or even basic logoc - the bigger the exagera...

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Doesn't change the facts that it is the Bible literalists that have been and still are against science. Just quoting Dawkins having a go at organised religion as a crime against children doesn't change this. In fact given you're quoting Dawkins, I'll start a thread next week quoting what he has to s...

shafique

Ok - understood.

Now we'll wait for FD and eh to read what the US docs said about the expectations of Israel and the US assessment before the war (despite being outnumbered). I wonder whether they will agree that the official reason 'whithers away' on closer inspection.

Shafique

shafique

Eh - I suggest you read the article before you embarrass yourself further. The US docs confirm the point I made that the Israelis expected an easy victory before they started the war. I said we should contrast the official spin with the facts as now revealed - and as the author above says, the myth ...

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'Whithering away' is used by the author in the article. As I said you should read the article and comment on what it says, and check whether it confirms my statements that Israel believed it's forces were superior before they launched the war. The article also addresses whether it was Nasser was for...

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Lol, I quoted the whole article and chose not to selectively quote.

So, do you now agree that the Israelis believed they had a superior military that could win the war in 7 days - before they started the war?

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

Very interesting views. FBI calls this an act of domestic terrorism and despite the white supremacists having a political agenda for their racist attacks, there are those who dispute this is actually terrorism. The argument appears to be that the FBI must have redefined the word terrorism to include...

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From a few days ago in a US paper - this is a father's tribute to his son, an American born peace activist who died last May. Eloquent and moving, I thought. A father speaks for his son 02.24.2011 Times Union My son, Furkan, was killed in May by the Israeli military while attempting to deliver human...

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