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Well, Sharon's visit led to an Intefada - pretty provocative by all accounts. So, the Israelis have passed a law that forbids Jewish people from moving their lips on haram-al-sharif? Interesting, I didn't catch that piece of news. As for the history of Jerusalem, you must have different history book...

shafique

Do you really think that no one will notice you are not answering the questions asked? As I said, the questions are quite simple, as is the context in which I asked them. Your long posts are devoid of any answers to these questions - which raises another question: are you ashamed of your views? Chee...

shafique

I guess you didn't register that I don't agree that expelling Muslims living in the Maghreb quarter adjacent to the Western Wall isn't an appropriate analogy to the alleged war crime of preventing Pagans Arabs from worshipping at the Kaaba. As this is a thread about war crimes, I asked (quite reason...

shafique

Ok, first let's clear up something that you seem to be implying - I don't want to be accused of misrepresenting your views: Do you agree, or disagree, with the fatwa's main finding that Islam condemns/does not allow any acts of terrorism - i.e. killing of civilians will send you to hell, not to heav...

shafique

Scary stuff. Unfortunately the man in the street is going to think that this is all 'conspiracy theory' stuff and that's how they'll get away with it. The more I read into it - the more I'm beginning to agree with the argument that financial system of interest is at the root of the troubles world wi...

shafique

I agree that if interest rates are allowed to be set by the 'market' you won't get manipulation by governments. However, aren't you then just handing over the reins of this powerful economic tool to those who own capital? (Also, it's a bit 'chicken and egg' with an interest based economy, money natu...

shafique

I'm reading with interest the discussion - and I have to say I have sympathy for views expressed by both FD and RobbyG - they make their points well. For Wilders - I only know him from the 'Fitna' episode - and there I actually supported his right to make his point. I thnk it is always better to hav...

shafique

A very interesting article from the Israeli newspaper Haaretz - raising some good points. I also note that it calls a 'spade' a 'spade' - and doesn't pull punches in criticising Hamas, Fatah and the Israeli Government for their respective roles/actions: How will the next Palestinian uprising look? 0...

shafique

It's interesting how the truth eventually finds a way into the open. Israel is not having its own way these days and has now resorted to the tactic of labelling criticism of its actions as 'evidence of rising anti-semitism'. The wiki entry on the attack by Israel on the USS Liberty also has a lot of...

shafique

Hey, eh -

Do you agree with these Israelis on who killed Jesus?:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ek5G633 ... r_embedded

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Yawn, please see my answer above where I repeat the questions you are still avoiding.

However, I agree observant readers can and will make up their own minds.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I'm not sure how many times you want me to answer your first allegation and how many times you'll avoid answering my simple question. But let me be clear to avoid confusion. 1. Answer: No, I don't agree with you that preventing idol worship in the Kaaba and returning it to its monotheistic roots is ...

shafique

No I don't condemn acts of God - but you do. I see you consider this non-condemnation as shameful. I'll just chalk this down to another 'quaint' belief. But you don't deny you are just like Al Qaeda and justify the slaughter of civilians by people - just as long as they use the excuse 'god ordered u...

shafique

Perhaps all the men who want to work in hairdressers will make their way to join the Taliban and swap stories about nail polish and how to keep their hands soft etc. eh - what's with your latest obsession with middle eastern boys and men - I'm getting a bit worried about you! :drunken: Cheers, Shafi...

shafique

Hey, don't take my word for it - take the Israeli Army's word for it in their internal communications at the time (and contrast it with the official spin) - before they started the war by attacking Egypt. Surely you don't believe the spin that the 1967 was a defensive war? So, what's your view of th...

shafique

Whilst you're digesting and considering how to reply to Robby's post above, you seem to have overlooked this from my last post: Ok, first let's clear up something that you seem to be implying - I don't want to be accused of misrepresenting your views: Do you agree, or disagree, with the fatwa's main...

shafique

Thanks for the insights Robby - makes interesting reading. Being hard on youth is a tactic tried in the UK - with the 'ASBOs' - anti-social behaviour orders. The perverse thing is that became a badge of honour amongst these 'feral' youth - a whole section of society that seems to fit your descriptio...

shafique

Yes, I'm justifying the return to monotheism of the Kaaba. No problems in accepting and clarifying my views of what the Quran says. Contrast this with your condoning of the slaughter of civilians by Israelites and the enslavement/rape of 32,000 virgins in the Biblical War Crimes thread. I also note ...

shafique

The bbc ran an article on Israeli army assessments from 1967 which stated that they knew they had superior forces. I couldn't immediately find the direct reference, but here is an indirect one from an article describing the 1967 war, and also refers to British intelligence assessments: The Jewish Go...

shafique

Why should I condemn Israel for what it hasn't done? Surely there are enough real war crimes for us to condemn? A better analogy would be if some satan worshippers took over Al Aqsa +mosque+ and then some monotheists came along and restored the worship of one God. There too I would not consider this...

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The difference is that non-fanatics will denounce cold-blooded acts of murder and enslavement and rapes. Another difference is that I'm unaware of any act of God where virgins are spared and then kept for the use of those who killed the families of the virgins. But the biggest difference is that I c...

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I did say we should indeed compare the internal Israeli military assessment with the 'official' version of events. So thanks to eh for giving us the public Israeli side of the story, now I'll leave it to others to dig out the internal Israeli military assessments that were made public relatively rec...

shafique

Sort of reminiscent of the brutal acts of justice carried out by French resistance under Nazi rule and the more recent 'punishments' meted out in Northern Ireland by the IRA and Protestant miliants. Note that the bombings referred to weren't carried out by Hamas

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I look forward to reading the discussion as it develops - should prove interesting. eh, I note you didn't comment on what Rob posted about Cook's tactics in his book about Jihad above. I also note you haven't said whether you agree that Islam does not condone terrorism as the fatwa in question clear...

shafique

Interesting tactic - you are desperate for me to join you in condoning acts of massacres and enslavement by Israelites.

And yet you think I'M the one who is a religious fanatic?

shafique

I just said let's compare internal Israeli military assessments with the official one you've expounded on - is that really being too unreasonable?

Why are you getting your knickers in a twist - did you think we didn't understand the official Israeli line when you first posted it?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Avoiding the fact that Mossad told the yanks the war would be over in 7 days. I'm not surprised the zionist website tries to excuse or spin the exagerated numbers - but as -I never disputed that Egypt had more troops, this is a classic strawman. What I said was that Israel believed the war would be ...

shafique

What is confusing about my observation that to test you fantasy that Islam allows s.ex outside marriage should be tested by quoting what God says about adultery - confused you? Your refusal to quote what God says speaks volumes. The fact no Muslim agrees that this verse allows adultery should have g...

shafique

So, in summary eh condones the war crime and uses the excuse that 'god told them to do it' Therefore he is no different from other religous fanatics who justify the cold blooded killing of civilians by men who use god as an excuse. He goes further by also condoning the enslavement of virgins (as opp...

shafique

Ok, now I'm at a real computer for a little while - let me quote the relevant bits of the article which make the point I was making before about the difference between the 'spin' and reality - notably the central myth that Israel was fighting a defensive war against an aggressive Arab enemy: New les...

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