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shafique

Excellent, I guess you have only lame insults left in your vast arsenal of erudite arguments.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

As I stated before, I''m travelling this week and have limited access to the internet - sometimes reading and replying on the blackberry. I did look at the stats underlying the Telegraph article and that only covered 3 months in 2006 in a few UK districts (not a national survey, nor for a whole year...

shafique

Given I've agreed to extract the numbers of anti-semitic and Islamophobic numbers from the references you have given, perhaps you will finally get round to quoting the verses of the Talmud which state only Jews go to heaven. Fair?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I smell more than whiff of hypocrisy here. FD digs out a 14 year old report and expects Muslims to not condemn the treatment of Kurds. The facts are that the Kurd homeland was divded between Turkey, Iraq and Syria by western powers. Nato was complicit in allowing Turkey to bomb Kurds freely in the n...

shafique

Are you feeling ok eh? As I have said before, just because you want to believe that a military commander and soldiers were unarmed diplomats, doesn't mean we will have to share in this latest quaint belief. I have given you a full quotation that exposes the spin of your selective quote and wild inte...

shafique

Yes, I've already said I will extract the numbers from your links and present them here as I requested you do.

Perhaps this time you may be proved right - let's see what the stats say. Can only do this at the weekend though. So some patience young man.

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

I'm just waiting for you to produce the verses from the Talmud to back up your second allegation. You will then be able to correct all your fellow 'believers' who you think agree with your second allegation.

All mouth, no trousers again?

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

Excellent - more should be done to highlight the abuses going on in the region. Israel is certainly not alone is violating human rights. Turkey, Iraq and indeed Iran are also accused of these violations as well - and all should indeed be highlighted. We should certainly denounce any measly-worded ex...

shafique

I'm interested in finding out too - good question eh. FD - you seem to be the resident expert on Syrian abuses, can you answer? I'm happy to just condemn all abuses as they are mentioned - doesn't matter to me who is carrying them out - current day Syrian abuses should indeed be highlighted - I woul...

shafique

Avoiding YET another question eh - how long is the list now? I'm sure I'm losing count: 1. Do you believe in Rapture? 2. Do you condemn Goldstein as a religiously based terrorist? 3. Where are the verses from the Talmud in relation to your allegation against the Quran? 4. Will you ever look for Musl...

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shafique

I apologise for the typos in the above posts - shows I'm all thumbs when it comes to typing on a blackberry! My eyes could be deceiving me, but is eh complaining that I'm not answering questions he's posed? Intriguing - I wouldn't have thought he'd be a fan of irony? ;) But back to this thread's top...

shafique

Hey, I'm actually half hoping that eh is correct on this point - I've said above, perhaps the stats will bear out his beliefs here. Any increase in actual anti-semitism is indeed to be condemned, and any real increase should indeed be highlighted - the stats should show this, one way or other. I onl...

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In any event, I'm happy to move onto the next Koranic inaccuracy. Here, the Koran says that the Jews believe that only Jews will enter 'Paradise'. I am not aware of any such belief in the Judaism, so this should, yet again, be regarded as a simple error. 2:111 - And they say, 'None shall enter Para...

shafique

Ok, as promised, I'll go through each set of statistics and extract numbers of anti-semitic attacks and comparable Islamphobic attacks in the same place and period - to show whether anti-semitisim is on the rise and more of a problem than Islamophobia. Let's start at the beginning then: A handy list...

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According to page 63 of a study on anti-Semitic attacks, 146 out of a total of 216 recorded racist attacks were carried out against French Jews for the year of 2000. http://www.infopartisan.net/document/antisemitismusstudie.pdf In France, just like the United States, there are more attacks against ...

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Ah, ok - we have some from 2008 I see - perhaps now we'll get some direct comparisons... Here are the numbers for faith based attacks in the US: There were 1,606 hate crime offenses motivated by religious bias in 2008. A breakdown of these offenses shows: * 65.7 percent were anti-Jewish. * 13.2 perc...

shafique

Defects and merits of Christianity , Hinduism, Islam Hinduism has two defects. The first is that all the rituals are not conducted in the mother tongue. The rituals involve hymns in Sanskrit. I see the logic - we should understand the liturgical rites/hymns/prayers we offer. Makes sense to me. Howe...

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This from the man who questions whether Obama is a real american or not - but hey, let's not dismiss a guy's theory just because of what else he believes. Interesting fact that other male suicide bombers have had implants in the appendix area and buttocks. I must have missed the stories of these guy...

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A funny quote from Ynet of Israel this week : ... Perhaps, in addition to the United Nations’ anti-Semitic tendencies, Judge Goldstone’s self-hatred, and the Palestinian attraction to white phosphorous, a small part of what the Goldstone Report says may be related to things we really did do during t...

shafique

You may not have noticed, but Israel's cover ups keep me busy, as do fanbois denying the facts over Gaza truces etc. ;) Anyway, I'm glad that you've undergone a damascene conversion and are now (belatedly?) joining me in championing the cause of those oppressed people in the region. We'll let FD enl...

shafique

Still with QB1 I see - but no denial that Matthew says Pilate was not blame for Jesus' killing, and that you never-the-less now believe that Matthew was wrong on this point. Fascinating that.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I think also Shaf alot of muslims need to wake up and not automatically think the west is as pro-isreal / jewish as they believe. Yes, I agree. In fact, a few name-changes ago eh-oh started a thread on how British Muslims were taking out ads in Pakistan to point out that the West isn't as Islamopho...

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It appears there's quite a lot the young man either doesn't know or is in denial about! I particularly like the 'not a single person' complained comment. I didn't know he'd be such a good laugh! (Presumably he will come up with the argument, well no one has posted any comment to show that 40 years a...

shafique

You really must spend some more time brushing up on your comprehension skills. I have indeed been posting about the fate of the Kurds - I posted when Turkey bombed Kurds with the complicity of Nato, for example. I also was posting about Saddam's treatment of the Kurds before it was fashionable to de...

shafique

Let me know how you get on. The good thing is that your less detailed quotes and my fuller quote are there for people to read, compare and contrast. The spin of presenting a military commander and his soldiers as 'unarmed diplomats' and a group of soldiers as 'assassins' is another fascinating examp...

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Thanks Dattaswami - I'm glad you quoted my statement to eh about Matthew stating that Pilate was not responsible for killing Jesus. Note how he chose not to defend the Bible, but rather attack the Quran with his favourite 'quaint belief' QB1. At least I guess he is sharing the love and wanted you al...

shafique

Thanks for the explanation. I think we agree more than we disagree - when I read what you are saying and get beyond the words, I see that there is some common ground. Islam does teach that Muslims should focus on the divine and that the object of creation was to do 'Ibadat' or worship of God. Ibadat...

shafique

Do you think that repeating your beliefs without providing any new information will change the facts? You made an allegation, backed it up with only selective quotes and have failed to address the fact that my quotation in full exposes your spin for what it is - a fanciful leap of logic. If you real...

shafique

Sure, let me help:

eh, you are living in the past with your views on Islam - get with the 20th century view that rejects the orientalist spin that Islam was spread by the sword etc.

Cheers,
Shafique

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