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shafique

Ok - yes I would indeed be interested in you showing us the statistics of physical attacks against Jews by non-Jews and physical attacks on Muslims by non_Muslims. When you post these let us know which period and which country you are referring to. Note you are the one saying anti-smitism is rising ...

shafique

Your Bible does not contain the Gospel of Matthew!!!???

Oh what a tangled web you weave to avoid answering questions about what the Bible says.

I guess that had you been in the garden of Gethsemane you would have denied knowing Jesus more than 3 times!!!

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Shafique

shafique

So we have arrived at the facts about jizya and are now waiting for eh to give us the rayes of tax that rich folk who owned land had to pay. I suspect that the young lad will be regretting he made yet another assertion that he can't back up with evidence (noting we are also still waiting for talmudi...

shafique

I can't click through to the link for technical reasons, but I'll hazard a guess that you have found an old MEMRI video and/or Fox news item and wet your pants with exitement that you could try and divert attention away from the questions you are not answering!

shafique

I am neither Iranian nor Shia, so your insights about what is happening is very interesting. From what I have read though - Shah Reza was quite notorious and did a bit more than a 'few bad things' - notably the oppression of any political opposition (killing, torture, rape etc by his secret police)....

shafique

Just because you want to believe that the military commander and his soldiers were unarmed civilians does not make it so.

I gave you a full quote and linked to the book. You have only given accounts which give less detail and spin the story differently.

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Shafique

shafique

My bad - I confused you with other fabois who say anti-semitism is increasing - so I take it you agree with me that these are just fantasies that don't stand scrutiy? Or do you indeed BELIEVE anti-semitism is on the rise, but just haven't said it here? Which is it? You do say however that attacks ag...

shafique

My point was to find out whether what I had read about the last shah were true - eg that he was put into power by the Brits who forced his father to step down, and that Moussadek's reforms were in the interest of Iranians, but the CIA objected and deposed him. Subsequent to this the Shah's rtegime r...

shafique

I am sorry my questions are boring. Mixing up the names of the last two shahs obviously shows I am no expert and should indeed be asking questions to improve my knowledge. So, why was Reza replaced by his young son? (We'll come to Mousadek, reports of torture and repression and reported excesses aft...

shafique

Thanks symetric for offering to answer my questions. The question above to melika I guess is where to start - is it true that Shah Muhammad Reza was put into power by the Brits who deposed his father because he was not co-operating? What I've read (and seen in documentaries) is that the 21 year old ...

shafique

More blaming of the victims I see.

It's as if it is Hamas that is killing Israeli civilians or allegedly assassinating people in Dubai!

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

eh - I'm travelling this week and internet connections aren't the best where I am and will be. Why don't you present the numbers, and by all means start with the US. Show the like for like physical attacks against Jews and Muslims. If you have stats for other countries (you mention France), by all m...

shafique

Just to be pedandtic - assassins as a word did not exist in those times, it derives from Ishmaeli crack troops who killed surrepticiously. Bernard Lewis has a good book about the assassins. Now, coming to your question about whether I have a problem with the Prophet, pbuh, sending out soldiers to ac...

shafique

So eh - will you ever look up the references from the Talmud which confirm what God says in the Quran (that Jews believed that only Jews go to heaven) or are you conceding that your second alleged inaccuracy is also based on wishful thinking?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Thanks symetric - however, there wasn't much in your reply that shed any light on the matter. I guess you weren't alive at the time and only have what your elders have told you to go on. Fair enough. At least your opinion of Mossadegh is that he was preferable to the Shah - it appears to me that he ...

shafique

Just to be pedandtic - assassins as a word did not exist in those times, it derives from Ishmaeli crack troops who killed surrepticiously. Bernard Lewis has a good book about the assassins. Now, coming to your question about whether I have a problem with the Prophet, pbuh, sending out soldiers to a...

shafique

Well, I have to disagree that hate crimes against Muslims are different from hate crimes against Jews. I don't view the two groups as any different - when it comes to being attacked because of their religion. To be honest I think it is a bit racist to suggest otherwise - but that's just me. I'm sure...

shafique

Just to make the point that we need to look at the statistics carefully - the Telegraph report is actually making conclusions based on 3 months of data - from July to September 2006. Over that period, a total of 109 faith based attacks took place against Muslims in the the areas picked by the newspa...

shafique

Excellent - so you'll be able to write to wikipedia and correct all those scholars when you dig out the Talmudic verses which confirm what God says in the Quran. Surely you're not going to run away from the accusation you made and hide behind 'scholars on wikipedia'?? You relished pointing out that ...

shafique

Thanks Melika - as I said I wanted to understand the view points of those who have a good opinion of the Shah's reign. So, let me understand the issue of his accession - he was put into power because UK, Russia and US invaded, and his father was looking like he was going to side with the Germans. Th...

shafique

So Syria has suddenly decided to erase the historical and cultural roots of some of its ethnic minorities. This must be a recent decision, otherwise ..... Another epic fail on your part eh. Did you not notice that the FD was referring to incidents that took place last century! (Well, to be fair in ...

shafique

You're not seriously arguing that a fox news report about a supposed study by US military intelligence is something we should take seriously, are you? And Bora's point is well made - so what? What if the Pashtuns were a bunch of raving homos - who are just expressing their frustration that the cloth...

shafique

What's the matter eh - was FD's post too long for you, or did my one use too many long words?

Or is it that you didn't expect us all to notice that this was a 14 year old report? (but perhaps you weren't aware of that fact?)

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Let's see the numbers rather than spin. All I have done is show that your Telegraph article uses data which shows that for 3 months in 2006 there were 109 faith hate incidents against Muslims vs 107 against Jews (this is like-for-like in time and place). Not a lot of evidence to make a judgement on,...

shafique

So, you are complaining that Muhammad, pbuh, sent a competent contingent of 30 soldiers to escort the equal number of soldiers accompanying the military commander? Perhaps the issue is that the military commander underestimated the military prowess of the Muslims and was unwise to have attacked them...

shafique

Why don't you paste the numbers for both anti-semitic attacks and islamophobic attacks for the same periods and regions - that is what I requested. We can let the numbers speak for themselves - and examine whether your contention that Islamophobic attacks are lower than anti-semitic attacks is borne...

shafique

I really don't see why you are getting your knickers in such a twist. The fullest account of the incident shows that a group of soldiers accompanying a military commander and his soldiers successfully thwarted an attack that you are characterising as an assassination of unarmed diplomats. I have sta...

shafique

Why the reluctance to paste the numbers then? Am I being unfair to just want to check your numbers are like-for-like? I'd rather see numbers rather than spin - a prime example being the Telegraph article which draws conclusions from a rather small data set (they exclude large parts of the UK and is ...

shafique

More ad hominem attacks I see. I just made it clear in my post that there is indeed support for Kurds amongst their Muslim brethren - however I also pointed out that their homeland was carved up by non-Muslims and the attacks against them have historically been condoned by the West - just take the T...

shafique

I'm convinced you are in the Twilight zone! :) But seriously - FD and you are implying that Muslims and the press at the time these events occured and the report was published 14 years ago did not speak out against the injustices to the Kurds. I'm telling you that many did, and that the injustices w...

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