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Yeah, descriptive of the fact the Bible absolves Pilate and blames the Jews. I always had you down for wearing jack-boots, not flip flops. :) But hey, why the reluctance to let us know who you think is responsible for killing Jesus - either 'not Pilate' as Matthew says, or Pilate as the 21st century...

shafique

Glad you think I'm funny. I think its hilarious that you have a one-liner that is discounted in all the historians who describe the conquest of Caesarea and I have a full account of a military leader and his soldiers being killed after a skirmish with an equal number of Muslim soldiers. At the end o...

shafique

If you at least give us the reference in the Talmud for these verses, I am happy to cut and paste them here. However, I would not know where to start - so over to you.

You made the allegation, so I'd expect you to provide at least some evidence.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Oy vey!

shafique

Some disturbing accounts from an Israeli news source: Female soldiers break their silence Six years after first collection of Breaking the Silence testimonies, organization releases booklet of testimonies from female soldiers who served in territories. Stories include systematic humiliation of Pales...

shafique

You could have just said that you can't dispute the full account above and want to believe your selective spin. As for Caesarea - please refer to the thread you started and ran out of steam on when you were exposed editing the one line quote and eventually acknowledging that you only have that one l...

shafique

Kennedy says there was a differential in land taxes at some time. The simple task you have is to give us the rates so we can check whether this differential outweighed the higher zakaat a Muslim would pay. We are all now clear that landed gentry pay less in jizya than in zakaat - so let's now see wh...

shafique

I understand you don't want to believe Newby's conclusions - however I asked whether you could find any other expert that disagreed with his conclusion that Ezra was considered a ben elohimM Your opinion does not qualify (just to be clear) I'm coninved by Newby - and his evidence backs up God's stat...

shafique

Ok - so you and other Christioans are free to believe the Bible when it says the responsibility for killing Jesus is not with PilateN but on the heads of Jews and their children. Matthew says Pilate was not responsible for the killing of Jesus. I totally agree you have the choice between believing M...

shafique

So, do you agree with Matthew who says Pilate is not responsible for killing Jesus and puts the blame on the Jewz?

You argued that this is not anti-smitic, are you now flip flopping?

Was Matthew correct to absolve Pilate?

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

You can assume what you like from the full and unaltered quotation I have provided. We can compare and contrast the accounts and see which gives more details. Theophanes one line is ignored by historians such as Kennedy when they describe the event in the other thread. Your argument is with those hi...

shafique

It should be easy for you to give us the actual rates of tax on land then.

We will then be able to check out your theory.

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

So, will you back up your second allegation and dig out the quotes from the Talmud which say only Jews go to heaven? As for wiki - they are all saying jews did not worship ezra. I agree that there is no evidence of this. You quoted God only saying jews considered him a ben elohim. Anyway, I hope you...

shafique

Why are you being coy about your beliefs? Do you agree with Matthew that Pilate was NOT responsible for killing Jesus, washed his hands of the affair and that the responsibility lies with non-Romans? I trust your English comprehension is sufficient to understand the question and recognise that the i...

shafique

I prefer to verify theories - and here we should see the tax rates to check out whether you are right or not to co-opt Kennedy to your cause. Why the reluctance to produce evidence? You make allegations against the Quran and don't back it up with Talmudic references that are requested from you, and ...

shafique

Many modern day historians also blame Pilate for killing Jesus and disagree with the account in Matthew which explicitly absolves Pilate who Matthew says washed his hands and said he would not be responsible. And as for your 'probably' were assassins - let me challenge this new belief of yours and a...

shafique

There really is no need to refer to numbers killed by Nazis if one wished to give examples of spin. There are far more recent and well documented (and referenced) examples of Israeli lies - for example when they blamed Hamas rockets for breaking the truce in Gaza in 2008. There is even a thread on t...

shafique

Israel and its fanbois regularly try to divert attention away from Israeli crimes (real ones) by playing the anti-semite card. Islamophobia is part of the disinformation campaign designed to portray the occupying power who is breaking the law as superior than the victims. The issue is over colonisat...

shafique

Another feature of israeli spin and beloved of fanbois is the weird self-serving definitions and twists of logic. Eg. Point out that Israel uses Islamophobic spin to disguise the fact the conflict is over colonialisation and suddenly you are accusing Israel of eh-oh's quaint beliefs! :) Anti-semitis...

shafique

So, yet another quaint belief that the military commander and his armed guards were civilian diplomats.

I simply asked whether you had any evidence that the full account I quoted is a fabrication - but we only get your beliefs.

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

When someone claims one tax was higher than another, I simply ask them for the rates and what they applied to.

It is clear you don't have these facts - so yet another case of all mouth no trousers.

Shafique

shafique

Eh - you and stats don't have a good trackl record - just see how your theory that Muslim converts carried out more terrorist acts than other groups crashed and burned (when you could only find 4 compared to my 242) And I see you are up to another fanboi tactic - giving opinions or pastes without re...

shafique

Dsoes your copy of the Bible have Matthew NOT saying that Pilate washed his hands and was not responsible for killing Jesus.?

Or do you agree with those who say Matthew was wrong?

Why so coy about your belief about the Bible?

Cheers
Shafique

shafique

Thanks for sharing your belief about what happened - however I can't see what evidence you have that the full account of the incident where a military commander and his armed guardslost a fight with an equal number of Musli$ soldiers. It appears you really, really, really want to believe that select...

shafique

But you know better than the UN, don't you 'oh shEikH'?

Remind us again - do you think that it is ok to hate Islam? Or do you just condone attacks agains Muslims, as they secretly want to kill/conquer all non-Muslims?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I'm asking you whether you consider their mass killings a 'genocide' or just 'mass murder'? The latest reports of 321 killed are just the latest in a long campaign of killings by these guys you claim are Christians. So - do you consider these terrorists genocidal or just mass murderers? (Note, if yo...

shafique

What, by asking you to address what Dawkins writes about the NT?

Can't see how. Can see that you are not addressing his points.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I agree that there are points I disagree with Kung about. However, the point on whether Muhammad, pbuh, worshipped the same God as Moses and Jesus - we totally agree - it is the same God. Kung considers Muhammad, pbuh, a true prophet of this one God. Eg: .. But may a Christian assert that Muhammad w...

shafique

Yes, and the Palestinians should be grateful for what the Israelis allow them to have, and it is all their fault for provoking the moral Israel's wrath. But hey, pounding the open prison that is Gaza hasn't prevented Israel losing soldiers when it attacks Gaza - so I guess the answer to bomb them ev...

shafique

Thanks for confirming dozens of rockets were fired at israel last month by hamas. Wow, I must have typed that in my sleep! I don't recall typing that. However, the reports also say the Israelis said the attacks were in retalliation for the killing of soldiers who had invaded Gaza: ..Israeli aircraf...

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