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shafique

Thanks for confirming that you posted the story to illustrate your Islamophobia (not that it was ever in doubt).

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

The difference is that I have a good idea about what I know and don't know.

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Shafique

shafique

Oh dear, it appears that Israel is now locking up Israelis who are speaking up against Israeli crimes. And interestingly, when the US press is reporting this (the article below is from the Washington Post) - you know that things are seriously different now - we're used to Israeli journalists pointin...

shafique

So, I take it there is now no dissension over the fact that Israel broke the truce on Nov 4 2008 and subsequently lied about Hamas breaking the truce by firing rockets.

Speak now, or forever hold your peace (or present evidence contrary to the facts shown above).

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

The title talks about inaccuracies in the Quran. God says in the Quran that Jews considered Ezra to be a ben elohim. You haven't presented any evidence that this is inaccurate. You have, however, constructed a strawman that Jews did not WORSHIP Ezra, and then argue that this is factually wrong. I ag...

shafique

Thanks for the offer. However, I'm glad we've cleared up a number of misconceptions about Jizya in this thread. 1. Jizya is a tax (some argued it was more than this) 2. It is a simple tax, payable by only able bodied and employed men, and is fixed amount per annum. 3. the tax ranges from 12 chickens...

shafique

In any event, I'm happy to move onto the next Koranic inaccuracy. Here, the Koran says that the Jews believe that only Jews will enter 'Paradise'. I am not aware of any such belief in the Judaism, so this should, yet again, be regarded as a simple error. 2:111 - And they say, 'None shall enter Para...

shafique

Excellent - looking into the historical development of the concept of heaven as we speak. I'm however relying on your scholarship to dig out the quotes from the Talmud which say only Jews go to heaven.

Thanks for asking.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

So, given you think that Hamas are terrorists - you are now agreeing with me that Israel is acting like terrorists! Wow - you have come a long way. (BTW - what is it with Israel fanbois - whenever Israel commits a crime, they look around for another criminal and say 'well, at least we're not as bad ...

shafique

This dude - absolutely. What did I tell you about taking the time and reading what people post! The Saudi authorities and the mother also have objections, so why do you think that the old guy is a better Muslim than the mother and the authorities that are looking into the matter? If it was clearly s...

shafique

Cool, so we have no disagreement on the facts listed, just the arithmetic of fact 7. I see, perhaps it is a failure to follow the mathematics that was causing you issues. But just to confirm - you agree with all the other facts but can't yet agree to the maths in fact 7? I refer you to the examples ...

shafique

I guess the Irony that you are doing it once more is lost on you? You're excusing your tactics by saying that Muslims also use this tactic when they excuse terrorist acts. I've never used this excuse, so you must be thinking of other muslims. You do realise you are excusing the tactic of blaming oth...

shafique

Nope, I've provided a quote that says there are Talmudic verses which say only Jews go to heaven. The same reference says that by Medieval times the view had changed - but this reinterpretation took place after God revealed the Quran. Over to you mon-ami - please dig out the Talmudic verses which sa...

shafique

The people arrested seem to have been holding peaceful protests and some were kept in custody for 'weeks and months' before being released without charge - says the article. So, I'd agree with FD it is 'worrying'. The ANC blew up people and Thatcher famously agreed with the Apartheid regime that Man...

shafique

Finally, we should not forget that the Zionists used terrorism when they were in a similarly weak position and trying to obtain their own state. Between 1944 and 1947, several Zionist organizations used terrorist bombings to drive the British from Palestine, and took the lives of many innocent civi...

shafique

Indeed I know about the punishments for insulting the Quran, its just the double standard that I find sad. There are no punishments for blasphemy in Islam - all God says in the Quran is that if people are defaming religion or speaking profanely, one should leave their presence (i.e. walk away) and ...

shafique

You're excusing your tactics by saying that Muslims also use this tactic when they excuse terrorist acts. I've never used this excuse Weird. I thought you used this excuse when justifying Muhammad's war crimes because it was the 'norm' in those days to execute prisoners of war. Worse, you also excu...

shafique

FD - the article is quite clear. The organisers and other peaceful protestors were arrested and some kept for months without trial. The reference to stone throwing etc is from the Israeli authorities - and, with respect, they would say that - wouldn't they. The weekly marches/protests have had Archb...

shafique

I see that eh didn't read or understood Berrins post which disputes the one narration of the age of Aisha.

I suspected he might faint when he saw the length and detail of the post.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Thanks for you interpretation eh - but why don't you dig out the quotes from the Talmud being referred to and let us make up our own minds. It is fascinating though that the Rabbi Rambam (Maimonides) had to reform Talmudic interpretation - and that this was done when living under benign Muslim rule....

shafique

No problem at all. Arnold's quote is quite comprehensive and in previous threads I've quoted Kennedy and a number of other historians who all agree with Arnold's descripiton and conclusions. You're the one that seems to be struggling with the artithmetical conclusions of the quote from Arnold I've a...

shafique

Some more worrying revelations - the US is focussing on security ahead of aid and turning away planes with aid and medical supplies (this is even being reported on the BBC). This article from yesterday's Guardian is pretty damning: Haiti's suffering is a result of calculated impoverishment 01.20.201...

shafique

FD, perhaps you hate Islam because you believe the Israeli spin? .. But let me quote from John J. Mearsheimer and Stephen M. Walt from 2006: “Virtuous Israelis” versus “Evil Arabs” The final moral argument portrays Israel as a country that has sought peace at every turn and showed great restraint ev...

shafique

I would like to believe you shafique, but as they say actions speak louder than words, the attack on americans because of the danish cartoons sums it up completly. Harmless words and pictures on a page. I was just pointing out the reality of what Islam teaches - I wasn't denying that some Muslims d...

shafique

The writers should specify their sources, but I am guessing that they base their conclusions on Benny Morris. The writers have given extensive references (all those little numbers in the quotes I gave are references). If you click through the the article on London Review of Books, you find that Dan...

shafique

I thought I'd give you the references to some of the points (let me know which other ones you want, and I'll paste them here) The Zionists responded vigorously, and neither side owns the moral high ground during this period. This same scholarship also reveals that the creation of Israel in 1947‐48 i...

shafique

The point the authors were making is that the Israeli spin demonises the Palestinians when Finally, we should not forget that the Zionists used terrorism when they were in a similarly weak position and trying to obtain their own state. Between 1944 and 1947, several Zionist organizations used terror...

shafique

A shallow answer, young lad.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Repeating yourself won't change the fact you haven't got anything new to add to your spin and selective quotes. When you have something new, perhaps I can add something to this conversation - otherwise, the quotes and references are there for everyone to read and make up their own minds. Cheers, Sha...

shafique

Again I'm no expert, but it seems to me that this will never be resolved unless a divine source suddenly comes out of the closet with the answer. And you know how I think about religion. :wink: Just my two cents. This really has very little to do with religion - its just an interesting theory for m...

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