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The apartheid comparison was made by the South African government. As I stated in the opening post, they should know. We understand you disagree with them. You asked (in the other thread) for me to show where Israel was discriminating in East Jerusalem. B'tselem's summary is devastatingly clear - an...

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It's worth looking at what the South African Government actually said (and see whether it is libel or not) - I couldn't immediately find a full statement, but this extract from a news story will do for now: "We condemn the fact that Israeli settlement expansion in East Jerusalem is coupled with...

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As I said, we have to choose who to condemn and who to condone. I am with B'tselem etc in condemning the hostage-taking and murders carried out by Israel. Calling kidnapping and hostage taking 'administrative detention' or murders as 'targetted killings' does not fool too many people. Cheers, Shafique

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Yes, we agree - the Quran does indeed unwind some 'new' interpretations that were given to the Bible and returns to God's original (untampered) teachings. The Quran allows punishments that don't exceed the crime committed and also emphasises clemency. God's punishments in the Bible are pretty cruel ...

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Ethiopia demolishes your contention that ALL Christians and Jews are to be fought because of your misinterpretation of a Quranic verse. As I said, offensive Jihad is obligatory under some specific circumstances. The conquering of territory (which is not necessarily a 'jihad') to expand a state's inf...

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Some interesting viewpoints about Morality: 1. Sharpton / Hitchens Debate - Can Morality Exist Without God? ... Shafique, what do you make of these video's? With what do you agree or disagree? Excellent clip - I agree with Hitchens that we don't need God to come up with a set of moral values, and h...

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I was answering your question about showing that the tax for non-Muslims was lower than that for Muslims. So, starting with the Clergy/Rabbis/Nuns - any one of these religious people who had wealth in excess of 200 dirhams would have to pay more in taxes if they converted to Islam. (Jizya of 0% is l...

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Glad we agree that the Quran does indeed roll back some of the 'interpolations' that have found their way into the Bible and its intepretations!

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I agree with the author's analysis and conclusions - I can't, however, recognise your interpretation of what he says when I read the article in full. He's pretty clear (as the title says) that 'Jihad is Not Perpetual Warfare'. (I'm not surprised that you can't, after all, find any reference that sta...

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So, we agree that I have indeed shown that Jizya is less than Muslim taxes for these religious people?

Excellent.

Blows a hole in the Orientalist view of Islam, doesn't it?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Mods don't have this ability.

Why do you ask?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Oh dear, I see that once again I have to quote what B'tselem actually states on the hostage taking by Israel: Israel's use of administrative detention blatantly violates these restrictions. Over the years, Israel has held Palestinians in prolonged detention without trying them and without informing ...

shafique

You say that Israel is holding hostages legally, I disagree and refer you to the B'tselem statement above. Israel also murders Palestinians, and calls this 'targeted killings' - this is no different from Palestinians killing Israelis without due process. As I said, I don't distinguish between who is...

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This was a weird case - where the Malaysian government tried to ban non-Muslims referring to God as Allah. This is bizzare, because it is a new development by some Islamphobic Christians to argue that 'Allah' is not God of the Bible (Yahweh/Jehova/God). Its doubly bizzare because Arab Christians all...

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I confirm that I don't believe the world is flat and neither did the ancient Muslim scientists who accurately calculated the circumference of the earth (centuries ago). Eg. in the 9th century: Al-Ma'mun Around 830 CE, Caliph al-Ma'mun commissioned a group of Muslim astronomers and geographers to mea...

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From what I read from above, it is clear you question whether or not God exists. Following your further reply I can clearly derive an Agnostic belief. Refute me if I'm wrong. Note quite - I just have a personal view that any belief should be logical, and that in the absence of positive proof either...

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1. Do you believe the Bible is wrong to exonerate the Romans and blame the Jews for killing Jesus? and What does the Apostles' Creed say? The Apostle's creed is not in the Bible. The 18th century view was that despite 'suffering under Pilate' the responsibility for the death of Jesus lay with the J...

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I think that eh-oh has implicitly rejected the Biblical views held by the YEC in his reply in the 18th Century Beliefs thread. I presume therefore that he, like me and other Christians, believes that the Genesis accounts are not to be taken literally (i.e. that God did not create the universe in 6 d...

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If your theory is correct, then Muhammad wouldn't have needed to tell his followers not to attack Ethiopia. That type of instruction is only issued when it's taken for granted that Muhammad's followers would wage offensive wars against other nations. You're missing one important fact - the Holy Pro...

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If you ignore the evidence presented that your claim of 'religious workers' not paying anything in taxes is simply false, then I suppose you would be correct. You'd have to present that evidence for me to ignore it. The only evidence you provided CONFIRMED that clergy etc paid zero % Jizya. Jizya w...

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So, did you do your homework and confirm that the 8th and 9th century calculations of the earth's circumference were accurate? I know you cited the Apostle's creed - but that doesn't answer the question about what you believe. The 18th Century view was what Luther believed - that the Bible was accur...

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A critical believer,...the world could definitely use a few more like you mate. :wink: Thanks. :oops: I could not agree more with you about religion as a means to justify a cause. Thats one of the reasons I so dearly appreciate e.g. my parents decision for not committing me to their (weakened) reli...

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I'm just agreeing with the South African government - you dispute their conclusions that Israel's forcible eviction of Arabs from their homes in East Jerusalem is reminiscent of apartheid. I agree with their views about this illegal act. I also agree with B'tselem about Israel's hostage taking - tha...

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I haven't watched it yet - but Tony Robinson is great value, best known for playing Baldrick in the Blackadder series, he's presented a number of archaeology based programmes (eg Time Team). I've started a thread about 'Rapture' in the religion forum and asked eh whether he's one of those who believ...

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Gross. Reminds me of the white guy who was convicted for having s.ex with a bicycle: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1567410/Man-who-had-sex-with-bike-in-court.html Chev-the-chav - was this guy a friend of yours? :bigsmurf: Or perhaps the other perv mentioned in the article: Karl Watkins, an ...

shafique

As I said, I agree with the author's conclusions and the evidence he provides - in Islam, Jihad does not equate to perpetual warfare. God's words in the Quran are clear, and I'm glad you seem to agree that your interpretation requires that God's words are 'abrogated'. We therefore seem to agree that...

shafique

Let's take this in bite-sized chunks and not deal only with exceptions. Do you agree that the rules for Jizya say that clergy, rabbis, nuns, monks etc pay zero % jizya. We can separately check out the exceptions pointed out by wiki - noting when and who followed the Shafii school of though. Do we ag...

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I thought I'd requote the Bible so that there is no confusion about what is being asked (I'm not asking why Christians don't now agree with the Biblical account, but whether eh believes in the 18th century view that the Bible was correct): Ok, let me ask one question at a time then. 1. Do you believ...

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Ironically, Chuck Norris’ hidden talent is invisibility.

Chuck Norris doesn’t believe in Germany, but we've also not seen any proof that S&O is NOT a nazi. Hmmm..

Chuck Norris should investigate.

shafique

Chuck Norris is not hung like a horse… horses are hung like Chuck Norris

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