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I've invited you to verify my figures - the source is on the first page of this list and I painstakingly went through each incident. Given that there were so many, and that I excluded the majority of the incidents listed - my count is a deliberate understatement. But that is my count - I'm still on ...

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So Israel was, despite the protestations, harvesting body parts illegally. What is not yet proven is the allegation that Palestinian men were taken away alive and returned dead with missing body parts - but the Swedish newspaper reported accurately that this is what Palestinians said had happened (i...

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I understand that sometimes it is difficult for you to understand a point that is being made - and thanks for the advice about getting someone to explain things to you. The point is that this particular Church was constructed and used by 'German Christians' who reconciled Nazi ideology with Christi...

shafique

Ok, fair enough. Let us compare creation theories and what scripture says. Eh- what is your view of creation. Do you believe God created the world as described in Genesis - or do you agree with scientific theories of the big bang? Note also what I said above that the Quran 'corroborates' my view tha...

shafique

So now Luther is similar to Muslims in his attitude to Jews. Nope - Luther's views towards the Jews - his initial embrace of the Jewish people and condemnation of attacks against them then his later hatred against the Jews when they did not accept him, is similar to Muhammad and the Koran's stiffen...

shafique

You really must stop this habit of not reading what is posted! I simply asked whether you continued to believe in the 18th Century Biblical view that the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus or whether you agreed with 21st century Christians and all Muslims who both all agree (for different reaso...

shafique

I understand your objections - I also understand you don't want to do any work and verify that my figures are understatements. I've done my bit and given you the source - you can quite easily go through each terrorist act and then look up the newspaper reports from Indian to verify that the source i...

shafique

You really must stop this habit of not reading what is posted! I simply asked whether you continued to believe in the 18th Century Biblical view that the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus or whether you agreed with 21st century Christians and all Muslims who both all agree (for different reas...

shafique

Nope, I don't feel like consulting Google to verify your new revelation that Luther hated Jews because they refused to accept his message, and not because of what the Bible blames them for. Simple really - you make a claim, you provide the evidence for that claim. The more 'out there' the claim is, ...

shafique

How is asking about your view on creation going off topic? If you are one of these 'young earth' guys who believe the Bible is literally correct and was created a few thousand years ago, then there is no point discussing creation theories with you. I've not said I won't show you the Quranic verses t...

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:mrgreen: So you refuse to answer the question. But let me play with you a bit longer - where did I say you believed in the Quran's description of the crucifixion rather than the Quran's conclusion that the Jews didn't kill Jesus? (one is the 'result' - the 'what' = 'Jews didn't kill Jesus' the othe...

shafique

Thanks, but again you are quoting something that doesn't support your claim. It’s impossible to single him out as the only anti-Semite out there; most people at the time were antagonistic towards Jews; he was, however, especially skilled at verbalizing it, Wanting to convert Jews to Christianity is ...

shafique

Fine, if you don't want to verify my figures, then there's not much more I can do to help you on that front - I've been open about where my figures come from.

So, can we now try and get you to 5 terrorists, or are you happy to stick at 4 for the 9 years?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

The question remains - do you share the 18th century view that Luther and others had that the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus and that the Romans were absolved of this blame? Simple question. I'll start a new thread on Lutheran anti-semitism. So, do you or do you not agree with the Bible th...

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New thread - on the topic on Martin Luther's anti-semitic views and whether these were based on the Bible's claim that the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus. (The first two posts are from 'I8th Century Beliefs' thread). I'll reply in the third post. The Jews were expelled from Spain - in which...

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Nope, I don't feel like consulting Google to verify your new revelation that Luther hated Jews because they refused to accept his message, and not because of what the Bible blames them for. I wasn't aware that Luther hated Jews and called for synagogues to be burnt etc because they refused to conve...

shafique

First, let's be clear on a fact we both agree: Indeed, Luther surely believed that Jews - the leadership, for instance, were responsible for Jesus' death when he wrote treatises against the Jews just as he believed the same thing when he wrote in defense of the Jews. The question in the other thread...

shafique

Ok, fair enough. I'll answer your question that Luther's contempt for the Jews resulted from their rejection of Protestantism - as opposed to your belief that Luther hated Jews because they killed Jesus, a belief that Luther held when he defended Jews and Judaism: Ok - this is an interesting point ...

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'Young earth' christians believe the Bible is literally true and that God created the universe in a week and that the earth is only a few thousand years old. They believe that scripture must be interpreted literally and reject the view held by most Christians and Muslims that the creation descriptio...

shafique

Thanks for the Christmas present offer. My present to you is still the on-going help I'm prepared to give you to find the 5th convert terrorist over the 9 year period we've been examining. :bigsmurf: Ok, I'll bite - [sigh] - where did I say that you believed the Quran says that Jesus was crucified? ...

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From the Article Berrin linked above - a very clear description of the issue (it clearly lays out the points of international law, why the comparison with Apartheid is made, where it is relevant etc) - but this description struck me as relevant to the discussions in this thread: Part of the appeal o...

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It is a matter of law that 478 is non-binding. Which law is that FD? 478 actually says that Israel is violating International Law. What Law nullifies this statement of legal fact? (I wasn't aware that the fact that the UN Security Council is not bound by this legal ruling is a 'matter of law') You ...

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But many people do not understand that Zionism, as put into practice, calls for an exclusivist state that leads to policies characteristic of apartheid, as defined by the UN. Where does the UN define this? Or this article refering to a resolution that the UN later on withdrew? Yes, there is seperat...

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The question was quite simple, I thought 478 actually says that Israel is violating International Law. What Law nullifies this statement of legal fact? (I wasn't aware that the fact that the UN Security Council is not bound by this legal ruling is a 'matter of law') I'm not sure what Israel breaking...

shafique

Perhaps you are confusing the crime of apartheid (which is still a crime): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crime_of_apartheid with resolution 3379 which stated that Zionism was racist, and was withdrawn in 1991 to entice Israel to enter peace talks (and because of pressure from Washington). On 30 Nove...

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Aren't we in danger of missing the point of this story? The article posted above states: ISRAEL ADMITS HARVESTING PALESTINIAN ORGANS; INT’L CRIMINAL COURT MUST INTERVENE (Washington, DC - 12/21/09)—Today, several prominent news outlets confirmed what the Israeli government initially denied and denou...

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I'm not sure what Israel breaking international law has to do with knowing the difference between nationality and ethnicity? Really? Treating different nationalities different isn't discrimination and isn't breaking international law. It is if it is being done in Occupied territory - again, I refer...

shafique

Cool, we agree that there is separation. Incidentally, the word translated into Afrikaans is 'apartheid' and as the article quoted above points out: Yet the Afrikaans term does have a Hebrew counterpart in the term hafrada, meaning separation from and putting distance between oneself and others, in ...

shafique

Another example of chav behaviour from the UK :( More of these numpties should be locked up - for their own good. Earlier this month we had the horrific story of 10 year olds raping! Perhaps they are friends/relatives of eh-oh who thinks 12 year olds are too old! Two 10-year-old boys charged with ra...

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eh-oh, you seem to be missing the fact that many Christians follow the Biblical teachings and marry first cousins. Not only Christians, like Winston Churchill, but Jewish people too - such as Albert Einstein. I know you like to present yourself as an intellectual, but I think it is a stretch to try ...

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shafique - Posts

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Re: Israel Admits Harvesting Palestinian Organs

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

Re: The Koran and the big bang

Re: 18th Century Beliefs

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

Re: 18th Century Beliefs

Re: The Koran and the big bang

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

Re: 18th Century Beliefs

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Re: 18th Century Beliefs

Lutheran Anti-Semitism - Based on Bible?

Re: Lutheran Anti-Semitism - Based on Bible?

Re: Lutheran Anti-Semitism - Based on Bible?

Re: Lutheran Anti-Semitism - Based on Bible?

Re: The Koran and the big bang

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

Re: Apartheid Comparison - From those who know

Re: Palestine - Push for Independence

Re: Apartheid Comparison - From those who know

Re: Palestine - Push for Independence

Re: Apartheid Comparison - From those who know

Re: Israel Admits Harvesting Palestinian Organs

Re: Palestine - Push for Independence

Re: Apartheid Comparison - From those who know

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Re: gender identity defect hits Gaza

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