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Thanks for quoting part of the Quranic verse about Jesus. The part I highlighted was pretty clear: .. for of a surety they killed him not So, the question still remains - do you believe the Bible when it says the Jews were responsible for killing Jesus, or do you agree with 21st century Christians t...

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So, you do agree that the verse is translated correctly and hasn't been misrepresented.

Excellent.

Now, tell us why you disagree with the fact that the verse therefore makes hostage taking illegal under Islam? (Or perhaps you don't disagree with this fact now?)

Cheers,
Shafique

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Of course I don't share Hitler's views that Jews are the worst of God's creatures Nope, that wasn't the question. It was whether you shared Hitler's view (and other Christians, to be fair) that the Bible is correct when it blames the Jews for killing Jesus - OR whether you believed the new view tha...

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Olmert's map is interesting - and I couldn't see in the Haaretz stories on the subject where Abbas says what the Palestinian objections are. The Pdf of the map is here. http://www.haaretz.com/hasite/images/iht_daily/D171209/olmertmap.pdf http://www.haaretz.com/hasite/images/iht_daily/D171209/olmertm...

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I read this article in Fisk's book 'Age of the Warrior' and thought it may make a nice Christmas present for chev-the-chav and eh-oh. It details the actual mass killings of Christians carried out by Muslims - and is the first Holocaust of the 20th century. As the article points out - later Ottoman g...

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So, whilst we wait for eh to make up his mind whether the LRA are genocidal or just mass murderers (given the accounts of around 100,000 killed) - and also whether he's got an answer to the above points about Hitler's use of Christianity - here's another photo from the church http://sites.google.com...

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So we all now agree that Israel is occupying East Jerusalem (your last paragraph above). International law is pretty clear what is legal for an occupying power to do and what it isn't. Depriving the citizens of the occupied land their land rights is one thing that is clearly illegal - as is colonis...

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Do you really disagree with resolution 478 that Israel is breaking international law in East Jerusalem? I do believe Israels annexation of East Jerusalem is unlawfull, just as Jordans occupation of the Westbank and East Jeruslam was unlawfull. Like I said, final borders need negotiation and not uni...

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Yes, your post which singled out an impending 'lecture' rather than chav's 'less-than-human' comments led me to write that and speculate on the motive (note the use of 'perhaps').

If it was me, I'd distance myself from his comments - but that is just me.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Right, so we agree that unilateral actions or declarations regarding final borders are not helpfull. Yes - it is better to have two parties negotiate than one party to unilaterally declare that it wants recognition of something (in this case it was UN resolutions etc). Was Jordan in breach of inter...

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His previous post was even shorter than the one you quoted (it was only one line).

I assumed you had read it.

I generalised my comments just to be polite.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Ok, Jordan or Israel annexing land that isn't part of Jordan or Israel is illegal under international law. Israel annexing East Jerusalem has specifically been ruled on by UN resolution 478 - that Israel is breaking international law by annexing land it captured by force. Simple. I don't understand ...

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Interesting point. Leopold II was indeed brutal and the rape of the Congo was one of the many tragedies of European colonisation of the Africa. So perhaps the Armenian Genocide is the second genocide of the 20th century - perhaps you should let Fisky know of your view that the Belgians beat the Turk...

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A Christian gave this answer when asked if cousin marriages are forbidden by Christianity: No it is not against the bible! There are many instances in the bible where God commands cousins to marry. There will be people that will try to say that it is forbidden under the law of the bible but you can ...

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Israel shouldn't be above the law. But it is very telling how you focus on Israel and donot mention Hezbollah and Hamas breaking international law. But hey, people shooting rockets from a kindergarden to another kindergarden are your heroic freedom fighers. Nope, I'm happy to condemn terrorist acti...

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eh - you were the one that quoted what the Quran claims about Jesus. I clarified that you hadn't addressed the main point God makes - that the Jews surely did not kill Jesus: Thanks for quoting part of the Quranic verse about Jesus. The part I highlighted was pretty clear: .. for of a surety they ki...

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I understand that sometimes it is difficult for you to understand a point that is being made - and thanks for the advice about getting someone to explain things to you. The point is that this particular Church was constructed and used by 'German Christians' who reconciled Nazi ideology with Christia...

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So you believe that humans evolved from lower hominids but you don't believe humans evolved from lower primates and, eventually, from single celled organisms, all because the Koran says so. Try and keep up eh. I believe that humans evolved from the primordial soup - and with some of your posts I'm ...

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According to the Islamic Holy Book - the Quran, God has bestowed honour on every individual irrespective of skin colour, race, nationality, etc. Freedom is one of the great favours of God and its deprivation is a great misery. Under the Islamic dispensation, no one can be made a captive without a j...

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CIA working with Palestinian security agents 17.12.2009 | The Guardian Palestinian security agents who have been detaining and allegedly torturing supporters of the Islamist organisation Hamas in the West Bank have been working closely with the CIA, the Guardian has learned. Less than a year after ...

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Ok, shall we now try and find a fifth convert terrorist for you? I want to help you reach 10 by the new year - so c'mon, let's have your next candidate. You can verify my numbers in the new year - but for now let's both focus on getting your numbers up, all in the spirit of Christmas! Cheers, Shafique

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I'm glad you're glad. Now, is this going to be another 'all mouth, no trousers' incident. As I said, I couldn't see where Jesus says that first cousin marriages are forbidden. The Christian quoted above clearly states that the Bible doesn't say this, and the Church of England ruling above also does ...

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Luther, for example, was clear on this. When Jews rejected his message, yes, he changed his views - similar to the hardening attitude of the Koran and Muhammad towards the Jews. But again, why let historical facts on Luther, primitive Christianity, Rabbinic Judaism and the fourth crusade get in the...

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Nope, I'm happy to condemn terrorist actions taken by Hezbollah, Hamas, IDF etc - I even made the point that the rockets were actually counter productive. So, don't single out Israel in this conflict. That's just plain hypocricy. You seem to be confusing me with someone else. This thread was about ...

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Just to re-iterate, I'm with B'tselem on the Shalit issue: The Israeli human rights organization B’Tselem today (25.06.09) repeats its demand that Hamas release Gilad Shalit immediately. The circumstances of Shalit’s capture three years ago and the behavior of his captors clearly indicate that he is...

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Israel is breaking the law in the occupied areas it controls when it discriminates against the residents of these areas on the basis of their citizenship Discrimination based on nationality...you must be very confused. Perhaps this is what confused me: Yes, Israel treats non-Israeli's different tha...

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Israel offers citizenship to Arabs in East-Jerusalem and it is accused of discrimination. Not quite. Israel is guilty of discriminating against those who choose not to take the citizenship of the occupying power. As I said, this is illegal under international law - UN resolution 478 states this exp...

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Not quite. Israel is guilty of discriminating against those who choose not to take the citizenship of the occupying power. As I said, this is illegal under international law - UN resolution 478 states this explicitly. Where in the non-binding resulotion does it clearly state that Israel discriminat...

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Totally agree that we should not stigmatise Israel - we should be fair and only criticise her for the crimes she commits and not imagined/exagerated ones. Similarly, we shouldn't excuse her crimes and accept spin which seeks to blame the victims of her crimes either. The breaches of International La...

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Oh, I definitely agree - one will have to choose from a British government employee. :lol: :lol: Robin Cook was hardly a civil servant - he was the Foreign Secretary of Her Majesty's Government! "You know what you are? You're a hoot - that's what you are - a hoot!" :alien: Cheers, Shafique

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