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Re: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus

So, I asked whether you believe in the majority Muslim view about the Quran that it is indeed the literal revelation of God almighty. You started your post with 'yes I agree' - but I guess you were really only trying to be sarcastic. A good attempt - but no cigar (this time at least). So, come on - ...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus
Replies: 13
Views: 1908

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

Hey, this is a thread about Christian terrorists. I quoted from the Christian Research Journal about the LRA terrorists you have claimed for Christendom and asked what your opinion of them was as a result - are they genocidal or just mass murders? I wasn't aware that Christian terrorists were involv...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 'Christian Terrorists'
Replies: 241
Views: 12858

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Sorry, still couldn't see any evidence for the belief that converts were responsible for the Valentine day bombings. The link you gave said that the 'Jamestown foundation' believed that the RSM was responsible for the Makati bombing which killed 4. However, your first quote showed that this was clai...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16692

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

It looks like you need to do your homework eh. Lutheran Nazism In 1932 the Protestant church came under the influence of the Nazi movement called "German Christians" (Bewegung Deutscher Christen, also called "Stormtroopers of Jesus") and lead by the founder, Rev. Joachim Hossenfe...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 'Christian Terrorists'
Replies: 241
Views: 12858

Re: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus

So you don't agree with the majority Muslim view on the Quran when it comes to it being the literal word of God. Ok - I thought perhaps you had had a change of heart. I'm a bit confused as to why you want Berrin's approval of your views then? You presumably think that the Quran isn't the word of God...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus
Replies: 13
Views: 1908

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

Your memory is playing tricks on you again eh. 9.29 and its meaning have been explained to you many times now - but you seem to think that given time re-posting selective quotes may convince others that you know what you are talking about. May I refer you to the 'contradictions in the Quran' thread ...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29
Replies: 35
Views: 2684

Re: Islam and Terrorism

Bump for eh.
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Islam and Terrorism
Replies: 13
Views: 1779

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Au contraire, mon ami. I did read your link - and as I said, there is no evidence that converts carried out the valentine's day massacres. The best I could find was a belief that one bombing which killed 4 may have been carried out by the RSM. As I said, if you want to include 'suspected convert ter...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16692

Re: 'Another honour killing' "the Times"

Thing is shaf - I dont see any muslims need to be coming out in force to dissosociate this from islam, wheres the protest? but they not they all keeping hush. For many people silence is interpreted as approval. I agree silence would be tantamount to approval. In my experience - Muslims are the firs...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: 'Another honour killing' "the Times"
Replies: 6
Views: 1326

Re: Palestine - Push for Independence

Newsflash - Churchill 'hid' in an underground bunker when the Nazis were bombing London :mrgreen:
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Palestine - Push for Independence
Replies: 278
Views: 19646

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Excellent - I see now you are bringing out the exact references and providing the counts. You were trying to add 12 to the numbers killed - but we can now directly attribute 6 deaths to these 2 converts. So, we now have two more to add to your list and 6 killed and 100 injured (let's call it 120 - a...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16692

Re: gender identity defect hits Gaza

It is not surprising that the inhabitants of one of the largest open prisons in the world are having problems - there's no shortage of reports on the suffering of the Gazans because of sanctions etc. It is no surprise that chev has chosen to make a purile point - but hey, trolls do make the world 'i...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: gender identity defect hits Gaza
Replies: 52
Views: 5124

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

So, I take you now agree that Hitler did have close links with Christianity and attempted to unify the protestant churches under his brand of Christianity? This picture from the pulpit of Jesus with a Nazi soldier makes the point quite well: http://sites.google.com/site/apostolicapologetics/_/rsrc/1...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 'Christian Terrorists'
Replies: 241
Views: 12858

Re: Islam and Terrorism

Thank you for the bump. Now that seem to be reading the posts (well some of the posts at least) and bringing up (again) what the Quran says about terrorism/warfare - I thought I'd make it easier for you to reference what God actually says in the Quran when one doesn't take His words out of context. ...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Islam and Terrorism
Replies: 13
Views: 1779

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

Berrin - try not to be too frustrated by the young man. I suggest you just direct him to your previous threads where you explained what Islam teaches about warfare etc. I don't think he would have read your posts (they were long extracts) - but perhaps if you remind him of what was posted he may eve...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29
Replies: 35
Views: 2684

Re: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus

Nope, reading hasn't been difficult for me - has it been for you? I'm just trying to understand what else you think you have in common with Muslims? I applaud you for looking for points of common understanding - but I'm surprised you are not taking the line of Prof Hans Kung who argues that Muhammad...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus
Replies: 13
Views: 1908

Re: 18th Century Beliefs

shafique wrote:Let me know if I need to simplify the question a bit further for you eh.


The offer still stands eh - but I think the question is quite clear - do you still believe the Bible is correct when it blames the Jews for killing Jesus?

(Note there are more questions after this one)

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 18th Century Beliefs
Replies: 52
Views: 4837

Re: gender identity defect hits Gaza

I wonder if trolls can form a tag-team? :)

:bom:

(I half-knew it was futile me name dropping Einstein etc - or mentioning that my family errs on the side of caution - but hey, I've noticed that sometimes trolls do read, perhaps the moon has to be in the right phase or something?)
:bigsmurf:
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: gender identity defect hits Gaza
Replies: 52
Views: 5124

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Hey, I'm rooting for you right now - I'm sure that if we put our heads together we can get your count to double figures (sorry, let me be more specific - above 10). I'll happily add the extra 6 killings - its only that what you quoted above only said 6 deaths were attributed to the two converts. I'l...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16692

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

I understand you believe that your 18th century Orientalist views represent what Muslims believe. However, the Muslims on this forum have put you right and given you many quotes/links etc to correct your view. Taking selective quotes and ignoring the overall message seems to be the only way that Ori...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29
Replies: 35
Views: 2684

Re: Islam and Terrorism

Excellent attempt to divert attention away from the Quranic verses and Hadith quoted - I take it you can't take the arguments head-on, so would rather talk about who the author is. Ok, I understand. Which particular verses or Hadith do you think were misquoted or misinterpreted? Was it 8.68 where Go...
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Islam and Terrorism
Replies: 13
Views: 1779

Re: 18th Century Beliefs

patiently waiting for an answer.
:alien:
by shafique
Dec 19, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 18th Century Beliefs
Replies: 52
Views: 4837

Re: gender identity defect hits Gaza

"Children" would imply that Paleosimians are human. I know you expect people to get angry and react to this racist talk - but I just find it extremely funny that you are just reinforcing the stereotypes of those who hate people because they look different. I wouldn't be surprised if you a...
by shafique
Dec 20, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: gender identity defect hits Gaza
Replies: 52
Views: 5124

Re: gender identity defect hits Gaza

Yawn. The Quran is quite clear that the Jews didn't kill Jesus, whilst the 18th Century christians (well 19th, 20th, and 4th to 17th century Christians) all believed the Bible to be true when they blamed the Jews for killing Christ. It is not surprising that eh chooses to side with chev the chav rat...
by shafique
Dec 20, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: gender identity defect hits Gaza
Replies: 52
Views: 5124

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

No problem - I've listed quite a few of your quaint beliefs - we'll just add the interesting leap of logic that equates 232 with zero. But, as I said, I'm happy to help out and try increase your count of 4 - I'm sure if we really try we can reach 10. So whatdaya say? Shall we go for number 5? Cheers...
by shafique
Dec 20, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16692

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

You really must do at least a bit of your homework eh-oh - really, the other boys and girls in your classes must be so frustrated with you! God is emphatic in the Quran that Jesus was not killed by the Jews. You yourself have quoted the verse before .. but let me repeat it for you. Chapter 4 156. Th...
by shafique
Dec 20, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29
Replies: 35
Views: 2684

Re: Islam and Terrorism

Ok - it is refreshing that you admit you aren't sure what the meaning of the verse is. When you are more sure, let us know. First check whether the translation is ok, then let us know whether the interpretation that hostage taking is forbidden is what you understand (and probably more importantly - ...
by shafique
Dec 20, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Islam and Terrorism
Replies: 13
Views: 1779

Re: 18th Century Beliefs

Whether you believe the Bible is correct to blame the Jews for killing Jesus, or whether you agree with God's verdict in the Quran that the Jews did not kill Jesus. The former is the 18th century Christian view (and incidentally what Hitler was taught and believed). So do you share Hitler's view or ...
by shafique
Dec 20, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 18th Century Beliefs
Replies: 52
Views: 4837

Re: gender identity defect hits Gaza

There's no point 'lecturing' someone who calls Palestinians 'less than human'. But then again, most people would disapprove of his views and dissasociate themselves from him - but then again, perhaps if one's islamophobia is strong enough, one may want to believe his views are right? Cheers, Shafique
by shafique
Dec 21, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: gender identity defect hits Gaza
Replies: 52
Views: 5124

Re: Palestine - Push for Independence

Thanks for sharing your beliefs with us FD. They make interesting reading. However, I can't fail to feel that you are trying to divert attention from the questions posed above about the UN resolution 478 and Israel's illegal activities in East Jerusalem. I've actually provided you with direct quotes...
by shafique
Dec 21, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Palestine - Push for Independence
Replies: 278
Views: 19646
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