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Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

I can't help you with your flip-flop - but will refer you to the various sites which state that the NLFT are Christian Terrorists (you quoted one yourself) and the fact that the reason you conceded was because the Christianity in Tripuram only took off in the 20th century - making the 'National Holy...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Was Jesus crucified? Anwer - yes

Was my answer to your question unclear?

Let me repeat - I do believe in what God says in the Quran about Jesus' crucifixion.

What is confusing you?

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Jesus crucified? Anwer - yes
Replies: 31
Views: 4288

Re: 18th Century Beliefs

Let me know if I need to simplify the question a bit further for you eh.

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 18th Century Beliefs
Replies: 52
Views: 4837

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Here's a description of what the Christian Convert terrorists did in 2000 (as an example): There are too many violent acts of the NLFT to list but most involve kidnappings, extortion, mass murders, rapes, bombings and forced gunpoint conversions . NLFT seeks to severe all ties to the indigenous cult...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

10 NLFT terrorists killed 8 civilians in November 2009 - so my count goes up: Between 2001 and 2009: Number of Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 4 Number Killed by these: 152 Number Injured: tbc vs Number of non-Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 242 Number killed by these: ...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Hey, sometimes you have to call a spade a spade! ;)

So, are you going to verify my numbers or are you going to remain in denial?

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Was Jesus crucified? Anwer - yes

When I answered your question about Jesus' crucifixion - did you think I was someone else?

:mrgreen:

I thought you said you'd read all the posts in this thread (which makes a welcome change)?

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Jesus crucified? Anwer - yes
Replies: 31
Views: 4288

Re: Was Jesus crucified? Anwer - yes

I know it feels like we are going round in circles - but in what way was my answer to you about Jesus' crucifixion unclear? Was it the part where I said I believe what God says in the Quran? :bigsmurf: It reminds me that I'm waiting for you to answer the following questions (I'll only list 3): 1. Do...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Was Jesus crucified? Anwer - yes
Replies: 31
Views: 4288

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

I looked at the violence in Ambon in Indonesia - it appears that the Christians carrying out terrorist attacks (and Muslims doing the same) are both composed of non-converts. The terrorists there aren't as brutal as the LRA in Uganda (who eh claims are Christian terrorists) - but as they aren't conv...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Palestine - Push for Independence

A most fascinating reply. Firstly, not everything Israel does is wrong. When it outlawed the use of torture - and forbade what was previously allowed to happen to prisoners, that was a good thing. Other good things Israel has done: - pull out of Lebanon - give back Sinai - close the colonies in Gaza...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Palestine - Push for Independence
Replies: 278
Views: 19643

Re: Palestine - Push for Independence

Regarding resolution 478. Point 5 says that nations must withdraw their embassies/diplomatic offices from Jersusalem - and as a result of this resolution they all did. Most nations with embassies in Jerusalem relocated their embassies to Tel Aviv following the adoption of Resolution 478. The full te...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Palestine - Push for Independence
Replies: 278
Views: 19643

Re: The Fetus Rights in Islam

Proplem is, the foetus seems to loose its rights when the parents are not married. Thats inhumane. This is news to me. Perhaps you are referring to a practice/fatwa that I'm not aware of? Islamic theology teaches that every human is born pure - we don't have a concept of 'original sin' etc. There w...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: The Fetus Rights in Islam
Replies: 4
Views: 1484

Re: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus

Berrin, you do realise that eh probably won't read such a long post! ;) However, I did - it was an interesting read. Some of the logic I didn't follow - but such is the flexibility within Islam that allows different views on these issues. The translation (I'm assuming it was written in another langu...
by shafique
Dec 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus
Replies: 13
Views: 1908

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

the count remains: Between 2001 and 2009: Number of Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 4 Number Killed by these: 152 Number Injured: tbc vs Number of non-Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 242 Number killed by these: 255 Number injured :388 Stats do the talking. Cheers, Shafi...
by shafique
Dec 16, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus

Berrin, I'm not sure what you mean the the site is under attack - if you mean it is being criticised for its content -then this is normal for stuff put on the internet. As for the spelling/translation 'mistakes' these are minor and the message is being put across fine. 'Bacon' in the quote I gave ab...
by shafique
Dec 16, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus
Replies: 13
Views: 1908

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

How exactly am I supposed to answer your question if the LRA are genocidal if you can't even answer my question over how many people the group has actually killed? lol.. So you want me to do your homework (again!) You are the one that claimed these guys are Christian Terrorists - and yet you can't ...
by shafique
Dec 16, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 'Christian Terrorists'
Replies: 241
Views: 12857

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

the count remains: Between 2001 and 2009: Number of Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 4 Number Killed by these: 152 Number Injured: tbc vs Number of non-Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 242 Number killed by these: 255 Number injured :388 Stats do the talking. I couldn't se...
by shafique
Dec 16, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Let me keep this simple. The last complete statement of your statistics was on the 23rd October and was the figures below: [quote="shafique"] Between 2001 and 2009: Number of Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 4 Number Killed by these: 152 Number Injured: tbc I see you want to ...
by shafique
Dec 16, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Whilst we wait for your updated count (as we are comparing stats), the complete count remains: Between 2001 and 2009: Number of Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 4 Number Killed by these: 152 Number Injured: tbc vs Number of non-Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 242 Number ...
by shafique
Dec 17, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Oh dear. eh - I had a look at your first 4 convert terrorists. The first one, the 7/7 bomber who killed 26, the second was the convert Dellosa who admitted to placing the Abu Sayaf bomb on the Phillipine Super Ferry which killed 116 (I couldn't find references about him being charged for the crime t...
by shafique
Dec 17, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Therefore (pending your evidence that the 12 were killed by converts) your score has to go down: Number of Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 2 Number Killed by these: 140 Number Injured: tbc Let's not lose track of the fact we are comparing statistics. As for the NLFT being made up of c...
by shafique
Dec 17, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus

Excellent - so for a change eh is agreeing with the majority Muslim interpretation of the Quran. I presume that this excellent trait will continue and that he now agrees that Islam is a religion of peace and that the Orientalist interpretations of 9.29 etc are indeed 18th (and prior) century un-info...
by shafique
Dec 17, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Mirza Ghulam's views on Prophet Jesus
Replies: 13
Views: 1908

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

Hey, you are the one who claims the LRA for Christendom - I don't recognise Christianity in their barbaric practices or in their cultish beliefs. So you do believe they are Christians, but can't make up your mind whether they are genocidal or just mass murderers. I've clearly stated that I do believ...
by shafique
Dec 17, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 'Christian Terrorists'
Replies: 241
Views: 12857

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

Ok, given that you've claimed the LRA for Christendom, here's what the Christian Research Journal reported about the LRA. Note two things: 1. the un-christian like beliefs 2. the numbers reported killed - over 100,000. Terrorizing the Innocents in Uganda Religion Plays a Deadly Role in the Lord's Re...
by shafique
Dec 17, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: 'Christian Terrorists'
Replies: 241
Views: 12857

Re: 'Another honour killing' "the Times"

Countdown to another 'he did it because Islam taught him so'.... :wink:

Call me naive, but shouldn't the nutter have been locked up for trying to gas his whole family, and separately trying to poison his wife???? :shock:

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: 'Another honour killing' "the Times"
Replies: 6
Views: 1326

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Still waiting for your updated count. Nope, I haven't seen evidence that the Valentine's day bombings were carried out by converts to Islam - sorry. The link you gave said it was the Abu Sayaf group who claimed responsibility: The Abu Sayyaf Muslim extremist group immediately claimed responsibility ...
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results
Replies: 218
Views: 16691

Re: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29

So, do you agree with the Muslim interpretation that the whole Quran is the literal word of God?

If so, then do you object to Muslims who literally follow all the verses of the Quran which say we need to act justly, not fight unjust wars etc?

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Dec 18, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafiqu - the Muslim interpretation of 9:29
Replies: 35
Views: 2684

Re: Jizya - poll tax

You can't argue with arithmetic. The capitation tax was between 12 chickens a year for the less well off and a maximum of 48 chickens a year for the wealthy. That's a maximum of 4 chickens, or approx 12 grammes of silver, per month. To put this in context, anyone who could not save 17 chickens a mon...
by shafique
Jan 19, 2010
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Jizya - poll tax
Replies: 97
Views: 6659
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