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I am still interested in why you say Israel should not give back all the land it captured in 1967 - and which UN resolution says it can keep this land. Resolution 242. It specifies that Israel should return land conquered in 1967, it doesn't specify ALL land. This has been confirmed by the writers ...

shafique

:) couldn't keep sitting back. Melika - I thought dee made some very valid points which address the points you raise about Islam being the underlying factor contributing to this harassment in Cairo. Firstly it was the fact that Christian Cairo dwellers act in the same way, secondly it was the fact t...

shafique

Shaf, you stated that the religion you believed in should worship a God which communicates with the prayers, so you have to prove it, I do not believe in such things, so I don’t have to prove them. What do I need to prove - that my religion says God answers prayers? It does, you say you know what G...

shafique

You may want to look at sites such as this: http://channelingenergy.wordpress.com/2007/10/30/violence-against-women-frightening-statistics/ However, I can't help but observe that you aren't addressing Dee's specific points that Cairo's harrassment is not as a result of Islam - because the Coptic Chr...

shafique

What do I need to prove - that my religion says God answers prayers? I know what ur religion says, but I m asking you why do you believe it? Because I tested the claim and found it to be true. But at the very least, I chose to follow a set of instructions that did not say that the object of worship...

shafique

Well, you don't see a lot of things - for example the second and subsequent paragraphs of articles you post! Chances are, you won't read this paragraph - but I'll say it again anyway. I, like you, haven't read through what you posted - precisely because you haven't shown any sign of having read it e...

shafique

So you do want me to do your homework.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Ok - I'll wait. Let us know when you reach 10 then (and provide the references, as I've done). I'll have to dig out my list of your quaint beliefs - and add to it the new one that you've just invented, that the LRA are Christian Terrorists. If we actually look at your logic, we could also call them ...

shafique

Given a new belief from 'eh' about the Ugandan LRA being 'Christian Terrorists' - a belief that relies on faith rather than evidence (so, I guess you could call it a 'religious' belief of eh's) - I said I'd add it to the list of other quaint beliefs he's come up with. Do you have any new points? I t...

shafique

Just to clarify, here's a dictionary definition of quaint: Having old-fashioned charm; Strange or odd in an interesting, pleasing, or amusing way; Highly incongruous, inappropriate, or illogical; naive, unreasonable -- usually used ironically; Characterized by cleverness or ingenuity; skillfully wro...

shafique

I just find it amusing that you start a whole thread supposedly asking a question about someone who you have only 'read a few paragraphs' and instead of doing your homework keep insisting I give you my opinion on the subject. This is odd, as I've admitted that I too haven't read through what you pos...

shafique

Ok - never say I don't listen to evidence when presented. Wikipedia does indeed list the LRA as a Christian terrorist organisation: Uganda The Lord's Resistance Army, a sectarian guerrilla army engaged in an armed rebellion against the Ugandan government, has been accused of using child soldiers and...

shafique

Ok, given that wikipedia does list the LRA as Christian Terrorists, eh does have a point that these guys could be considered as 'born again' Christians (assuming that they were Christians to begin with) and not fully-fledged converts to the theology of Kony. Wiki's entry about them is: Uganda The Lo...

shafique

You're not going to try and argue they are Muslim now are you (in the same way you tried to argue that Goldstein was influenced by the Quran?). ;) You cited wiki - and it says Kony's butchers recite the Bible and believe Kony is in cohoots with the Holy Spirit - yet you conclude from a NYT statement...

shafique

agreed - LRA are Christian terrorists. The lists of their victims (killed, mutilated, displaced etc) should appear in this thread and not in the 'Converts' thread. I did not equate their theology with Christianity, but you have persuaded me otherwise. As wiki says: Uganda The Lord's Resistance Army,...

shafique

There are many topics I don't have opinions on - you could have posted the whole of the Guru Granth, for example, and I would have had to admit that I hadn't read it and couldn't give you an opinion of it without reading it. But why did you post all the articles and then admit you've only read 'a fe...

shafique

Perhaps you are right and these guys are Muslims as well as being Christian terrorists. I was wrong when I believed they weren't Christians, you have persuaded me otherwise. In what way are they Muslim? Here's a simple enough test to establish whether someone is Muslim - you ask them the question 'a...

shafique

I'm looking into a claim that the Christian terrorist Group, the Lords Resistance Army of Uganda incorporates some aspects of Islam in their theology. However, this story tickled my funny bone - the LRA leader has named one of his sons George Bush! I feel sorry for the kid on so many levels! Joseph ...

shafique

I still don't see any law discriminating against Arabs, or pictures on benches "no Arabs allowed". Yes, you are quite right - the Israeli law does not say it is ok to discriminate. No arguments there. The Israelis have indeed been modifying their laws over the years to take into account H...

shafique

Why does that happen even though average people are highly educated and conscious, live in raised standards and the fact that there is strict law and order to control affairs... Logically, it means that if it were not for these strict laws, the proportion of women being abused in these countries wo...

shafique

In Occupied Palestine, though, many of the highways are also based on religion - with Colonialist only roads reserved for followers of the Jewish religion. The jew only roads only live inside your imagination. Certain roads are only accessible for cars with Israeli license plates. Jew, Arabs, Chris...

shafique

I believe I used the term 'shouting match' first here - and would point out that another characteristic is that the parties aren't listening to each other. The equivalent here would be not reading and responding to salient points made. (But to be honest, part of me just wants your reaction to the an...

shafique

Ok, sorry - I thought I would clarify why I used the words shouting match, so that at least there would be no confusion over my intention. I understand that dee's questions and points to you weren't easy to read. This is a fair point.I also take on board the colour font may be viewed as aggressive (...

shafique

Agreed - in fact the first posts included these groups.

A longer list of Christian terrorist organisations was referred to by eh above:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_terrorism

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Well, the philosophy of worship in Islam also makes complete sense to me. We don't pray/worship for God's benefit, but for our own spiritual and physical well-being. For me, worship is food for the soul. How one distinguishes between serendipidity and a consequence of God's actions is down to one's ...

shafique

The problem is we have a conflict - we have people saying "islam portrays equality beween man and women" and then in the next paragraph 'but if the step out of line u can hit them" ? Find me a muslim that says the Quran gives him the green light to batter his wife and I'll glad hit h...

shafique

Sounds like you have evidence that devout Muslim men beat their wives less than non-observant/less religious Muslim men? It's called logic. Islam, Christianity etc all teache men that it is not ok to batter your wife. It also says muslims should not drink. All the surveys I've seen say that men bea...

shafique

Actually, we are still waiting for your updated count. The 'National Holy Army's' acts of terrorism are listed and these are the one's I've counted. I've actually underestimated the stats - and I've invited you to check these. The point is that they are 1. Terrorists, and 2. Converts to Christianity...

shafique

I'm also amused at the line of argument that is often reeled out when Israeli crimes/shortcomings are pointed out - viz '..but, but, but - the Arabs also commit these crimes/shortcomings' !!! I mean, wtf?? The above is a case in point - a cogent and well referenced argument listing evidence for disc...

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Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Handy List of Quaint Beliefs

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Re: Is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad The Promised Messiah?

Re: Handy List of Quaint Beliefs

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Re: Handy List of Quaint Beliefs

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

Re: Is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad The Promised Messiah?

Re: Handy List of Quaint Beliefs

Terrorist names son George Bush!

Re: Apartheid Comparison - From those who know

Re: Domestic Violence against Women

Re: Apartheid Comparison - From those who know

Re: 60 percent of women harassed on daily basis – Cairo

Re: 60 percent of women harassed on daily basis – Cairo

Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

Re: Why do I choose Islam?

Re: Domestic Violence against Women

Re: Domestic Violence against Women

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

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