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Excellent. I totally agree that Muhammad, pbuh, is the 'Khatamun Nabiyeen' - God says so in the Quran. However, I can't see anywhere where God says He will stop communicating with mankind - perhaps I missed that verse. He does say that the final religion is Islam and the final scripture is the Quran...

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Arab countries tend to be misogynistic. Historically, Islam had to specify that women had rights and that it was not ok to bury female children alive - the fact it had to specify this speaks for itself. That said, Arab women are quite outspoken and can (and do) write about what Islam means to them. ...

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The Arab peace plan is quite simple and very lucid on all points. Perhaps we are reading different versions of the Peace Plan? I agree with you FD that Israel does not feel under any obligation to abide by UN resolutions - including giving back land grabbed in 1967. Therein lies a fundamental roadbl...

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Thanks dee - very insightful.

Thanks for sharing the insights - it is refreshing to hear views based on reality rather than fantasies.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Don't you have an equivalent saying in Dutch to 'two wrongs don't make a right'? What Jordanians may or may not have done, does not excuse the eviction and bulldozing of an established community in a city that you've just won control over in a war. It's a war crime. Plain and simple. Given that the ...

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Sure, Prophets are people who convey God's message to mankind. The message of Islam teaches us how to develop a personal relationship with God, teaches us how to worship and pray and tells us what to expect in return. God communicates with humans in the same way He has always done. Being able to dis...

shafique

Here is a relevant verse from the Quran, 2.186:

And when My servants question thee concerning Me, then surely I am nigh. I answer the prayer of the suppliant when he crieth unto Me. So let them hear My call and let them trust in Me, in order that they may be led aright.
Cheers,
Shafique

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Again with the 'two wrongs argument'? I'll happily join you in condemning any injustices carried out by Arabs - there is no excuse for violating Human Rights and international laws. The excuse that 'well my neighbour is a bigger criminal than me' doesn't wash with me unfortunately. The South African...

shafique

Your argument seems to be with the UN.

Israel seems to believe it is above the law- therein is another source of the roadblock to peace in the region.

Help me out, where does the Arab Peace Plan ask for more than required by UN resolutions?

Cheers,
Shafique

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I got this summary of the Arab Peace Plan from a Haaretz article (it has the advantage of being succinct): The declaration's main points Full Israeli withdrawal from all of the Arab territories that were occupied in June 1967, with the implementation of United Nations Security Council Resolutions 24...

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Because I've tried it, and it works for me, and it also meets all the tests of logic I've thrown at it. Edit - sorry, I forgot - yes I do pray to God in my own language and He has answered my prayers in ways that I know are just from His grace. I know it is not my own self deluding myself, because I...

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Ok so let me get this straight, You test Quran with criterias which is in it? I first check that the criteria are logical and then I use them - but the over-arching test is one of logic. Quran says that if you pray, God will answer you, and he will send some signals for you, which I would be gratef...

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What you think my views on wife beating etc are have no bearing on Israeli actions in Palestine, so I'm a little amused at your comments. South Africa rightly points out that Israeli actions in Jerusalem are like Apartheid era white tactics, and suddenly everyone is wrong and out come the justificat...

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Ok Shaf, Reading your post makes me smile, so I think this is the end of the thread. You didnt bring any logical reason for God answering to you. fortune tellers have dreams like yours, I dont think that was God talking to you. I called that flow of energies. Hey, I said the logic worked for me - i...

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Do you have to use vulgar language when defending the eviction of Muslims from their homes and the bulldozing of the site? It would be suffice to say that you support Israel's actions and don't agree with South Africa when it says Israel is acting like the white Apartheid era rulers. Cheers, Shafique

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Israel committed a war crime when it evicted families living in the Maghreb quarter of Jerusalem in the area facing the Western Wall and destroyed over 100 houses and then forbade them from returning. These people lived there - they ate, slept and (yes) went to toilet there. Access to the Western Wa...

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Help me out, where does the Arab Peace Plan ask for more than required by UN resolutions? -UN resolutions call for the internationalization of Jerusalem, and not Muslims ruling over East Jerusalem Fair enough. We agree that the UN does not recognise Jerusalem as part of either Israel and Palestine....

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Levy in Haaretz asks an interesting question about this affair: Why can we talk to Hamas about Shalit, but not peace? 11.26.2009 | Haaretz By Gideon Levy Why is it permissible to talk to Hamas about the fate of one captive soldier and another several hundred prisoners, but forbidden to talk to them ...

shafique

Let me summarise - I said I wouldn't do your homework for you and that, like you, I didn't read through the articles you pasted.

I also said I am interested in discussing this once you've read and summarised Memon's responses to the articles you've posted and not read.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Everyone approaches religion and spirituality differently. For many people, logic doesn't matter - I've just stated that it does feature highly for me. Each to their own (eg my mum puts no weight on logic and spirituality - she has more 'faith' than I do) The question I'd ask Melika is a simple one ...

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I didn't see the answer to this question:

shafique wrote:Are you still maintaining that the LRA are a Christian Terrorist organisation?

Cheers,
Shafique

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I agree that the Arab Peace Plan gives Israel more than the UN resolutions allow - in that it allows them to keep West Jerusalem. It seems fair that the Palestinians keep East Jerusalem. Is this really the best excuse you can come up with for Israel rejecting the peace plan? Enlightening - shows tha...

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The Arab peace plan says 'withdrawal from all Arab lands occupied in 1967' - seems simple enough for me, and I personally can't see how this violates any UN resolution. (Perhaps you want to expand on your 'per se' - and I can guess the arguments) I am still interested in why you say Israel should n...

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So, FD's argument is that Israel's neighbours also discriminate, so the South Africans are wrong to say Israeli actions are like Apartheid. Surely he's just arguing that South Africa should have also named the other countries and condemned them for their Apartheid-like actions. Strange line of argum...

shafique

Actually, the Israel Palestinian issue is quite simple - all the main points of contention have been ruled on by the international community and there is a viable peace plan that is on the table - the Arab Peace Initiative/Plan. As voices in Israel are starting to point out (more loudly now), Israel...

shafique

I've posted this before, but I thought I'd resurrect this summary of a talk on the Israeli Palestinian issue - and which highlights that the issue is quite simple: He began with the almost iconoclastic phrase that the Israeli-Palestinian situation was not, in any way shape or form, complex. It is no...

shafique

Excellent discussion - melika I'm looking forward to your views on dee's replys to your questions. eh - why not try actually discussing and listening to what someone says this time? Dee's taken the time to address the issues you brought up - please do him the courtesy of reading what he has written ...

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An article from 1970 about Dubai - fascinating stuff: Golden Dubai Jun 6th 1970 From The Economist print edition 1970: Dubai is in strange and welcome contrast to anywhere else on the Gulf If the accident of oil had not brought such wealth to Abu Dhabi Sheikh Zayed, remarkable a man as he is, would ...

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Another interesting development: The EU is planning to call for the division of Jerusalem between Israel and a future Palestinian state. 12.01.2009 | Haaretz By Barak Ravid, Haaretz Correspondent Israel on Tuesday lashed out a new plan by the European Union to call for the division of Jerusalem with...

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Fascinating reply. Just to clarify - you are not denying the crimes that South Africa is condemning, but saying that Israel's Arab neighbours are worse. I can't see the link between Israel's war crime of evicting people from their homes and the issue about toilets in the most holy places? The Wester...

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