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Interesting - the LRA are now 'genocidal'. I wonder what that makes Iraqi and Algerian Islamist insurgents who have killed far more people in much less time? Meets my definition of 'genocidal'. But interesting to hear that you aren't denying they are Christian Terrorists - so do you agree that the ...

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It is really a statement of the obvious, but when the South African government officially compares Israel's racist actions to apartheid, one really can't dismiss it. However, the pro-Israeli lobby will give it a go. Again, note that this news will typically be given more prominence in Israel than in...

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I finally found some estimates for the numbers of terrorist converts in the LRA, rather than abducted child killers. Reports suggest the rebels may have as few as 1,000 trained soldiers, with the rest made up of children who have been forced into the movement. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/78858...

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Hmm - so there isn't apartheid like policies going on. Well, let's see what the same Israeli newspaper had to say on the issue: It smells like discrimination The widening gap between Israel's Jewish majority and the Arab minority is worrying and poses many questions as to the country's Arab-Jewish c...

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It seems that the discrimination in the Israeli justice system has been recognised by an Israeli Judge: http://electronicintifada.net/v2/article10896.shtml As in South Africa, there are still many decent people who are willing to speak out against injustice committed by the State. Cheers, Shafique

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Muhammad, pbuh, is a perfect model for humans. However, as a human he is not infallible - and shows that even the best of humans can make mistakes, but can also obey God's laws and be free from sin. Muslims believe he was free from sin (he didn't break any of God's laws) - but God Himself says he co...

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Edit - (I thought you said there was still a debate going on regarding the infallibility of prophets - I must have misread) On the subject of the error committed by the Prophet, pbuh, that God admonishes him for - have a look at this tafsir of ch 80: http://www.qtafsir.com/index.php?option=com_conte...

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Fair enough - I guess there must be other Tafsirs that have to explain away this admonition of God against Muhammad, pbuh, so that they can reconcile their view that he is infallible. I can't see any reason to doubt the Hadith and Tafsirs that say this is referring to the Prophet, pbuh. This Tafsir ...

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[quote="dee7]sinless and infallible are not the same thing. To sin is to first harbor an intention to do evil. I think you would agree that anyone supposedly sent by God to be a role model whether it be Noah or Christ or whoever, should not be morally corrupt. However they do make mistakes of j...

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I credit you on your persistence. Ok -let's spell this out for you. 1. Treaty of Hudaibiyya - the Prophet relates to his companions a vision in which they will be performing Haj in that year. They wear their robes and are stopped at Hudaibiyya and negotiate a truce. In that treaty the pilgrimage is ...

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Parts of the Israeli justice system works - and it says that the Israeli Arabs face discrimination. Hence the valid references to Apartheid. This judge said it eloquently: Israeli High Court Justice (Ret.) Theodor Or wrote in The Report by the State Commission of Inquiry into the Events of October 2...

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You are overlooking the fact that this chapter was revealed after the treaty of Hudaibiyya and refers to the vision that prophet had in v27. But as we've now established, some Muslim scholars do indeed consider the Prophet, pbuh, as fallible but sin-less. They use the historical accounts of Ch 80, a...

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Thanks Melika - I always enjoy when my views are challenged and I have to re-sharpen the arguments/justifications for a particular belief. As a result of our discussion, I'm now aware of the tafsir Majma-ul-Bayan and know that it differs from the mainstream Sunni Tafsir's in interpreting ch 80! If w...

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I fully understand the oft-repeated Israeli lines about why they refuse to abide by UN resolutions and stop violating international laws. The "national suicide" argument was ridiculous in 1967 and even more so today -the misinformation about Golan Heights being held for security rather tha...

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Hey, I agree with people when they point out contradictions in the Quran that are based on faulty interpretations (see eh's thread on Contradiction in the Quran). At the end of the day, I'm just saying that for me the Quran is logical, rational and without contradictions. Other readers may have diff...

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Excellent question Melika. For me, I choose to follow Islam because it is the most logical path I've discovered so far. I've read up and discussed what other religions teach (and learn from the original sources and adherents of those religions where possible) and then compare it with the religion I'...

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The fact that Arabs can go to an Israeli court concerning discrimination and win, just shows Israel is not an apartheid state. Even South African officials expressed their digust of hijacking the term apartheid for anti-semitic goals. Did you read the first post of this thread? It is the (black) So...

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As I've said, the statistics I've seen show that the incidence of abuse against women is higher in the States and Europe, even allowing for under-disclosures of rape etc in Muslim majority countries. As I stated above, even one woman being raped/abused is one woman too many and is condemned by all r...

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At the moment, the fact is that Israel is refusing to ratify a valid peace plan. Hence the reason the Palestinians are choosing to symbolically declare independence and show the world that it is not the Palestinians who are currently standing in the way of peace - the excuses FD and other fanbois ma...

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eh - I'm glad you took a break from pasting articles (which you haven't actually read through) to inject some humour into this thread. :) I presume you read more than a few paragraphs of the posts here, this time. ;) Melika - rest up! May I suggest we start a new thread in the religion forum - this ...

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I see that you are still insisting on beating a dead horse. I'm waiting for you to answer your own questions - what is your view on the responses given by Memon to the articles you've posted? I fully understand you have (and can) quote long articles verbatim - and experience has shown you haven't ac...

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Can you please provide a link that says the LRA killed 2 million people? The wikipedia article puts the death toll around 12.000. The up to 2 million is the total figure of victims - including those who were displaced by the LRA. I'm having trouble getting the figures of injuries/mutilations caused...

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Like South Africa, the presence of well meaning Israelis does not change the fact that Israel is committing acts of discrimination etc. If it weren't for organisations like B'Tselem, more Israelis would have the excuse that 'they didn't know'. Unfortunately, as Levy points out below - many now know,...

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The point I was making is that B'teselem is another organisation that highlights the discrimination in Israel that the South African government is likening to Apartheid. I agree it is a matter of opinion whether the discrimination can be likened to Apartheid - and some do make a distinction between ...

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I'll start a new thread in religion entitled 'Why Islam' and copy over the original question and your questions above.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Melika asked: So why did you choose Islam? you can choose all other religions and just take the parts you find logical. Or you can develop your new logical religion! My reply: Excellent question Melika. For me, I choose to follow Islam because it is the most logical path I've discovered so far. I've...

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Shaf, I have no problem with starting a new thread, but as event horizon mentioned you should come down of your teacher student position! For the number 1 to 3 I m gonna take them for granted in this debate cause they are common in most acceptable religions nowadays, For number 4, you stated that “...

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Ok so the running count remains Between 2001 and 2009: Number of Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 4 Number Killed by these: 152 Number Injured: tbc vs Number of non-Muslim Convert Terrorist carrying out attacks: 232 Number killed by these: 247 Number injured :388 We've also uncovered t...

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I also note that you don't condemn the ILA policy of not selling land to non-Jews - this is their rules and they own so much of the land. They aren't the government and can't make laws - just like the people who made the fatwa you referred to aren't in government either. What? ILA doesn't sell land...

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And just to clarify - is anything not accurate in the wiki entry on the subject: Israeli Law since 1960 has stipulated that land owned by the government or by the Jewish National Fund (also JNF or Keren Kayemet Le'Ysrael (KKL)), a private charitable organization working since before the establishmen...

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