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I just have a simplistic view of things and look at who is violating international law and who is occupying land illegally (and who are kidnapping and holding thousands of civilians hostage - including women, children and parliamentarians) As the first post indicates, it is the Israelis who are stan...

shafique

See my previous comment about abuse of women and consumption of alcohol - as I said, you can connect the dots. It would be interesting to see what the stats in Lebanon are between the various confessional groups - but any counting of population is a hot potato in that country. It would be interestin...

shafique

The belief that the Prophet, pbuh, was infallible after he became a prophet (at the age of 40) is not supported by either the Quran or history. Just the example of the treaty of Hudaibiyya shows this to be the case - all historians agree that Umar protested that the Meccans were not allowing the Mus...

shafique

You really should take the time and read what is posted - both by yourself and what I write. The issue is with the men doing the harrassment, not the women and certainly not what the women are wearing. The article you posted says clearly that the problem stems from men not following Islamic values -...

shafique

I'll happily start a new thread once we have your updated counts - we'll just rename it Muslim convert terrorist vs 'Christian and other' Convert counts, and this is what you chose to count and you chose the period. You didn't answer my simple question though - do you consider the LRA as Christian t...

shafique

See all my previous comments that your Orientalist views rely on selective quotes and ignoring evidence when presented. It is now clear that the meaning of the word Islam does include 'religion of peace' and even 'religion of peace and health' - but with the primary meaning of 'submission to the wil...

shafique

Another case of being 'all mouth no trousers' then.

I'm glad that I also only read a few paragraphs of your pastes/posts here and realised (correctly) that you would not have read through these, let alone what Memon wrote in reply. So what's the point?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

event horizon wrote:Islam calls on Muslims to strike terror into the hearts of unbelievers because they commit shirk.

A succinct example of a stongly held Orientalist belief that relies on people not reading what God says in the Quran. Thanks - I take it you didn't read the article in full.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I agree that the idea that Muhammad, pbuh, is infallible is indeed a common belief among Muslims. This is despite the Quranic and Hadith accounts of mistakes (not sins) committed by the Prophet, pbuh. Eg the misinterpretation that the pilgrimage of Hudaibiyya would be done literally - God corrects t...

shafique

Indeed, my view is indeed simplistic - the Israeli spin does try and make it out to be something it isn't (trying to fool people into believing it is a complex issue). The Arab Peace plan is quite simple, as is the well documented Israeli violations of human rights and international law. Calling kid...

shafique

You stated that Muslims believe that Noah (and other prophets) are infallible - I just clarified my earlier statement of fact that the Quran does not support this belief. I totally agree that some Muslims believe this to be the case, despite my statement of fact. I can't see how this clarification a...

shafique

:) I guess it is futile me answering your questions if it requires more than one sentence or words that are too long! ;) But thanks for posting a survey which says that the problem would be solved if the men followed Islamic principles. Not the intention you had, but then again it is only you own fa...

shafique

Yes, I agree - mix alcohol consumption with a misogynistic view of women garnered from scripture and you'll get horrible statistics of women beatings. Perhaps this is an explanation for the stats in the US and Europe as well as Turkey. It also shows the wisdom in the Islamic injunction which forbids...

shafique

Interesting opinion about the LRA. In what way are they Christian terrorists? Are they following Biblical scripture when they mutilate, rape and murder? Do they pray to Jesus? Just because they make reference to the Judaic ten commandments, doesn't make them Christian (if anything, they could be con...

shafique

Are you guessing what the author wrote, or did you actually read the article this time?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I'm just stating a fact that you are the only one here who has shown any interest in Mirza Ghulam Ahmad and haven't actually read the posts you've pasted, let alone looked at both sides of the argument. I've made no bones about posting information from atheist web sites - such as skeptics annotated ...

shafique

We've established that the word Islam does indeed also mean 'peace' in addition to the primary meaning of submission to the will of God. Perhaps you may not believe that God equals peace (if you believe the Bible literally, you may have just cause to doubt this - but I'd emphasise Jesus' words on th...

shafique

I thought you were going to add the millions of victims of the LRA who you now are saying are Christian Terrorists! If you are right (I don't think you are) - the crimes of the LRA swamp all those listed above. So - are you really arguing that the genocidal LRA are Christian Terrorists? Cheers, Shaf...

shafique

I know you want to desperately believe the LRA are Christian Terrorists (as it will mean we can exclude their acts of terrorism - but undermines your argument that Muslim Terrorists kill more than Christian Terrorists!!) - but you may want to actually read up on what the LRA themselves have said on ...

shafique

Do you believe in Quran as a whole? or you believe in the parts that you find rational? The whole Quran is logical and rational and I believe in it all. God says in the Quran that Noah made a mistake and isn't infallible. Hence my statement of fact that the Quran does not support the common misconc...

shafique

Kind of ironic that this comes from England, who muslims moan about yet has enabled them to lead an intellectual and sprirtual life which they would not be allowed in 'muslim' countries. The journalist interviewed Muslim women living in Britain - I think their views are interesting. I agree that th...

shafique

Why do fanbois always have to resort to Islamophobic statements when it is pointed out to them that the problem is actually quite simple and has been laid out in the Arab Peace Plan? The spin of trying to bring religion into a simple matter that has already been ruled on by the International Communi...

shafique

I see that a simple question first elicits some name calling - I didn't expect otherwise. ;) Ok, let's see what the specific objections are: You yourself have provided proof that before 1967 Israel didn't have borders! I wonder what borders everyone is referring to then? The Arab Peace Plan (and oth...

shafique

The verse about Muhammad, pbuh, can only logically refer to the revelation of the Quran, not his private life. how can you interpret this? Please write down the quote and let me know how did you get that it is just for Quran and not for his private life. Sure. The verse is from Ch 53 - Al Najm. Her...

shafique

And yet the statistics in Muslim majority countries (even secular ones such as Turkey and Lebanon where alcohol is probably allowed but not consumed nearly as much as in Europe) still shows that a very high percentage of women are battered in these countries. The statistics I've seen show that wome...

shafique

Ok, let us indeed compare statistics. What is your count? Mine are (based on your original parameters which I agreed to) : Total number of Non-Muslim Terrorist converts carrying out attacks: 332 Total killed by these: 1147 Total reported injured :388 (These are underestimates, may I remind you - and...

shafique

I see you are still in denial.

Fair enough. I have nothing more to add - the evidence of who said what, and who corroborated what is there for all to read in this thread.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

You should also read what I write, then perhaps you will stop asking for answers that have already been given. You've asked what I want - I've posted a few times that I am interested in hearing your summary of what Memon says in response to the articles you posted. Kudos that you've read through you...

shafique

eh - I presume you must have missed the question above.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I found this editorial from Haaretz very well written and it sums up my hopes as well in this time of turmoil in the region. Mideast unrest may be rare opportunity for human justice A mighty wind is blowing through the Arab and Muslim world and we are in the eye of the tempest, not knowing what the ...

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Re: TURKEY: 42% PCT OF WOMEN TARGETS OF VIOLENCE, SURVEY

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Re: Islam and Terrorism

Re: Is Mirza Ghulam Ahmad The Promised Messiah?

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Re: 'Christian Terrorists'

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Re: Can Islam liberate women?

Re: Can Islam liberate women?

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Re: Palestine - Push for Independence

Re: Can Islam liberate women?

Re: TURKEY: 42% PCT OF WOMEN TARGETS OF VIOLENCE, SURVEY

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

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