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eh you really should stop living in the past and get with the 21st century. I understand that you feel aggrieved that your selective quotes and superficial scholarship has been exposed and want to project your failings onto others, but it is not dignified. I applaud your candidness in admitting you ...

shafique

:lol: Please humour me and present your updated count of convert terrorists, numbers killed and numbers injured. Here's mine again: Total number of Terrorist carrying out attacks: 232 Total killed by these: 267 Total reported injured :88 This excludes 'suspected' terrorist attacks and anyone reporte...

shafique

:lol: Just because you don't read quotes (and links you give) fully does not mean the rest of us do the same! Your views about Khalid bin Walid are just the latest in a long list of quaint views on historical events - starting with the view that the Bible does not contain contradictions and wasn't i...

shafique

The US harbours many international terrorists. Notably ones involved in bombing campaigns in Cuba (and many others involved in South American atrocities). Chomsky points out in 'Hegemony or Survival' that logically, Cuba would be justified in bombing Miami because the US is aiding and giving succour...

shafique

Not unexpectedly, Israel has announced it more colonial homes rather than stopping building in occupied territories. Notably, the US has felt the need to join the UN and condemn the announcment of 900 more colonial homes in occupied Jerusalem: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8364815.stm Cheer...

shafique

It appears that eh-oh has tired of his latest name (ikka first, then eh now this latest joker ;) ) You've forgotten the magicians that have come from the Jewish community from Houdini to Dai Vernon, David Roth etc etc. Also you've conveniently forgotten that modern-day terrorism traces its roots bac...

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double post

shafique

I guess that the Palestinian move to go to the UN and seek independence for a Palestinian state on 1967 borders is causing you concern. I also note, with amusement, that you chose not to quote me correcting you in relation to Jewish terrorism - from Irgun to Goldstein (and not to mention the state t...

shafique

Sorry, I know it is a bit childish - but given that 'event horizon' is more aptly addressed as 'eh-oh' (from Telly Tubbies) when he makes his more outlandish posts, it seems only fitting to christen you 'oy vae' after the common yiddish saying 'Oy Vey' !!

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Oy Vae - indeed. Nope, not from Brooklyn - but from close to Stamford Hill ;) As I said, all I did was add to the list of Jewish acomplishments by pointing out the contributions to magic and terrorism (one good, one bad -you choose which). I also answered your query about what Muslims have done late...

shafique

You may want to look up how to use the quote function.

Are you eh-oh's younger brother by any chance?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Oy vae - you need to get out more, or are you just scared that the scary Muslims will come and get you? :lol: Anyway, thanks for reminding us that the modern-day terrorism owes much to the founders of Israel, and that the Bible also leads some astray to commit acts of terrorism (which some here cont...

shafique

All I did was mention that he had missed out Jewish terrorism from his list of accomplishments!

shafique

I feel sorry for the kid -

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shafique

Someone once said there are no Palestinians as well.

As we've seen, many still cherish quaint views about history.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Still in denial, I see. What part of the fact you take quotes out of context to justify your quaint views confused you? Kennedy is a good example - you haven't read the book completely and took his references to isolated massacres and used this to justify your Orientalist views that Islam preaches v...

shafique

It appears I'm getting through to eh-oh. I totally agree that the fantastical views of Orientalists about imagined war crimes of early Muslims are indeed worthy of condemnation and do indeed mirror those of current day Israel. Therefore I'd expect eh-oh to have no hesitation in joining me in condemn...

shafique

Are you seriously having trouble counting beyond 6 actual convert terrorists?? It is a bit late in the day to change the parameters - I gave you ample time at the start and agreed to your criteria that we count terrorists. So, let me repeat, Total number of Terrorist carrying out attacks: 232 Total ...

shafique

Perhaps when you've read through the rest of the first article and the link you gave, we can have a meaningful discussion. Was my question about whether you agreed with the other misconceptions cleared up in the link you gave really that difficult? I understand that you have a blind spot for Quranic...

shafique

I'm feeling generous today and will humour you. There are many Arabic scholars out there on the web and also, you say, people you know who speak Arabic. Ask them to comment on the opening sentence and explain whether they think it is wrong. Islam means the religion of peace. Note that the author is ...

shafique

An article explaining Islam's stance on Terrorism started with the sentence 'Islam means religion of peace'. Our resident 'expert' on Islam objected to this definition and maintains that this is wrong. A Google search was carried out and a quote given in support of his view. I suspect the intention ...

shafique

:lol: As I said, when you've read the rest of the article and also the link you gave, perhaps you'll realise the error of your ways. I see that you are running away from the challenge of finding one person who agrees with you that the opening sentence is wrong : 'Islam means the religion of peace' I...

shafique

You can't present one Biblical scholar that agrees with you that there are no contradictions and that no verses were inserted by Pauline Christians, and yet you still hold these beliefs. If I recall, I have seen one Koranic scholar you have quoted from who supports your view that Islam does not cal...

shafique

I'm excluding Tony Blair from my figures - I'm only going to include him if you insist on counting those who kill indirectly - and even then, I'll keep the figures separate. As I also said, now asking for numbers of suicide bombers who are converts is moving the goalposts - but if you are interested...

shafique

imaginary friends! :lol: That reminds me, how is your imaginary cousin in Lebanon, who's house was bombed by the IAF and got the money back from Hezbollah? ROFLMAO My metaphorical friend/cousin is doing well and still celebrating the fact they beat Israel in that war! ;) Cheers, Shafique

shafique

Perhaps acne cream causes a problem with memory or comprehension? :lol: I understand the need to go on the defensive now that we all know that you don't actually read the references you give in full. Your views on the Quran also reflect the fact you haven't actually read the whole Quran or read the ...

shafique

Not avoiding any questions - your theory was that Islam caused more converts to resort to terrorism than any other religion. We agreed to test your theory by looking at the stats of terrorists who were converts to Islam and compare that with terrorists who converted from other religions. Tony Blair ...

shafique

Yes I read Arabic. Do you? As I said, you can easily look up the meaning of Aslama in a dictionary and confirm your own quote that Islam derives from this verb (in grammatical terms it is the active participle of the verb). It should be relatively straightforward to show that Aslama does not also me...

shafique

Great, you are happy you know all about this subject. You don't need my approval/disapproval of your findings - I agree. I just wanted to read your summary of the points for and against the views you've copy pasted. I've seen no evidence that you have actually read what you've posted (and have ample...

shafique

You really should try and keep up. It is not that difficult. Aslama is the verb from which the word Islam derives from. You stated this in a previous post. The full meaning of Aslama has been posted above. You have been invited to check in any lexicon or dictionary to confirm the fact Aslama also me...

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