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shafique

Any person can do whatever they want and justify it however they want - it is up to thinking people , though, to decide whether they agree with an Orientalist view of Islamic history or agree with Kennedy, Kung et al (who have studied and written about Islamic history). God's commandment about cruci...

shafique

We have already established that you have a quaint interpretation of scripture - be it the Bible where you disagree with all Biblical scholars and insist that there are no contradictory verses and refuse to accept that verses were inserted to the Bible to support Pauline Christian theology. Your eve...

shafique

I was sent this joke today - presumably it was sent out because of the current controversy in Italy where crucifixes in classrooms have been banned in a ruling in the European court - because they violate a child's right to freedom of religion. I can't imagine Muslim parents having the chutzpah to i...

shafique

Each topic in its own thread makes for easier reading. As I said, on what God says in the Quran about crucifixion and what 21st historians have concluded about early Muslim conquests, have been well covered here already. Your refusal to acknowledge that Islamophobic Orientalist views of history are ...

shafique

I repeat my earlier observation that you continue to refuse to condemn white Jewish religous terrorists who kill Muslims and excuse Christian Converts when they commit terrorist acts in the name of liberation of their state - and yet open yourself up to accusations of hypocrisy by implying that Musl...

shafique

This is a good article on the subject: Islam means the religion of peace. A person following Islam will find that he or she is surrounded by noble teachings, the aim of which is to establish peace between man and Allah, the Creator of all; between man and man; and between man and the rest of Allah’s...

shafique

I see that you are going on the defensive again - all I did was ask you whether your count had reached 7 actual terrorists yet and reminded everyone that you refuse to condemn a white Jewish terrorist who killed Muslims and justified this using the Bible (and therefore you are like those who venerat...

shafique

The main reason for posting the article was to clear up misconceptions that Orientalists and Islamophobes have. We have established that you believe the quaint, discredited ideals and when cornered will seek to attack the author rather than address the facts. I refer you to Hans Kung who has written...

shafique

Your whole outlook on Islam relies on taking quotes out of context and insisting on believing the discredited ideas of Orientalists are true.

At least people can now see you have no real arguments against what was written in the first post above.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Sounds like a nice guy - I bet he also refuses to condemn Baruch Goldstein as a religious terrorist! :shock: What is disturbing is that the IDF is getting more religious - having Rabbis going in with troops into Gaza, for example. So some of the war crimes committed by the Israeli troops may perhaps...

shafique

Wow - the Quran must be an evil book then if it causes an Irishman to want to kill for religion. But, wait a minute, if the Quran caused 7 converts to kill between 2001 and 2009 - then the Bible must be a much more evil book because 232 Christian converts killed people in the same period!! Goes to s...

shafique

Sense of humour failure, or just a refusal to face up to the stats?

(So now the 'National Holy Army' is a secular organisation

... pull the other one, it has bells on).

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Only in your mind.

I notice also that you didn't clarify whether I was correct when I asked:

But, I always look for the good, I thank you for the link. I presume you also agree with the other clarifications made on the page and have now had a change of heart about Islam?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

As I said, many of your quaint beliefs require a deliberate misinterpretation of facts - from the Bible not containing contradictions to Islam being a violent religion. That said, I'm glad that you at least read the first paragraph of the article before racing off to Google for information that supp...

shafique

Steady on - eh will probably blame the fourth crusade looting of Constantinople on the Muslims!

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Interesting developments: Palestinian push for an independent state causes Israeli alarm Netanyahu to denounce Prime Minister's drive to sidestep Israel and secure support from UN Security Council By Donald Macintyre in Ramallah Monday, 16 November 2009 Palestinian leaders from President Mahmoud Abb...

shafique

Ahh, isn't the boy cute with his antiquated orientalist ideas about bloodthirsty muslims? Isn't it endearing that he wants to persuade us that military historians such as Hugh Kennedy (whose book 'Great Arab Conquests' he has only partially read), are wrong to disagree with the quaint orientalist no...

shafique

The simple answer to your question in the title rudeboy is that they are worse terrorists. I condemn all terrorism and don't make any excuses for the killings of innocents. I've even condemned the massacres that eh fantasises about having occured in early Islam (saying if they had occured, these wou...

shafique

You could just say that you won't address the question - we all know you can't handle the truth and have to rely on selective quotes. This example is just the latest in a long list - quoting a website which dispels a long list of misconceptions and then refusing to say whether you've actually read t...

shafique

Rather than start a new thread, here's an article in an Israeli newspaper which shows that the reality that the world is not taking Israeli spin at face value any more is sinking in. I'm sure there were well meaning South Africans who were ostracised in the Apartheid era, so it appears that well-mea...

shafique

It will be a long discussion if we have to wait for you to read the whole article posted or even the whole of the article you linked to. The fact that you can't get your head round that Peace is a secondary meaning of the root of Islam just highlights the fact that you don't actually read the inform...

shafique

Today eh-oh says he's happy to condemn Israeli war crimes.

So, it appears only Jewish Terrorists who are white and use the Bible to justify their killings are not condemned by eh-oh.

Oh dear.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I did answer your question about the age of marriage - but it must have been one of the posts that got deleted in the change over. I'll see if I have it saved and will post it below. However, it is good to see that you don't disagree with the conclusion that the groping is taking place despite Islam...

shafique

I'm not sure what link there is between US aid and domestic violence. Interesting fact though. And it is actually more related to US Military aid rather than just aid. There is certainly a link between military aid and human rights abuses, from Columbia to Turkey, from Israel to Indonesia. Perhaps ...

shafique

I agree that you think this is the case. However, I don't see the link between Israel kidnapping and holding thousands as hostages today, with what you think happened a millenium and a half ago in Arabia. I totally agree that Israeli actions pale into comparison with the war crimes in the Bible - a ...

shafique

Melika - So you think you also know better than the authors of the survey who say that the harrassment would be less if the men followed Islamic teachings? Perhaps you think these women don't know what they are talking about and should ask their husbands to explain it to them ;) (I hope that was sho...

shafique

Nope LRA are bonafide converts.

If you want to count those joining 'Shia Cults' - these would be born again types, unless they converted from a religion other than Islam. Please try and keep up.

Now what was your count - have you reached 10 actual terrorists yet?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

Nice try, but no cigar. It is only FD who has posted the nazi-like comments in this thread. Imagining that I share nazi views is a poor excuse for a comeback. But nice of you to support FD. Let's see what FD's post looks like if we change the reference to Jews: The problem is that JEWS tend to creat...

shafique

You're in denial.

My views on Jews are quite clear:
philosophy-dubai/questions-for-shaf-for-the-record-t46569.html

You've failed again. My views are nothing like the nazis and FD's.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

How loons misinterpret God's words in the Quran is neither here nor there - people can read the quotes and make up their own minds whether God talking about punishments in the after-life are the same as herve's nazi rant. I don't see the connection myself. The core piece of evidence that Islam doesn...

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Atheist Teacher - Joke

Terrorism and Islam

Palestine - Push for Independence

Re: For eh - Baruch Goldstein

Re: 60 percent of women harassed on daily basis – Cairo

Re: TURKEY: 42% PCT OF WOMEN TARGETS OF VIOLENCE, SURVEY

Re: Hostage Exchanges

Re: 60 percent of women harassed on daily basis – Cairo

Re: Christian vs Muslim convert terror counts - the results

Re: The Demise Of Islam

Re: The Demise Of Islam

Re: Forced Mariage Stoped By Australian Court

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