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shafique

I wouldn't call your argument about the contradiction in the NT 'funny' - just plain wierd. "Its not a contradiction, because I don't believe it is a contradiction - but the meaning is contradicted by the other verses" As for whether the Quran contradicts your interpretation of 9.29 - as I...

shafique

bump for eh - he seems to be developing another one of his false memories, thinking he gave an explanation for why this contradiction isn't a contradiction, when in fact he hasn't explained which men Paul was addressing in this fabricated and contradictory verse (according to Kung). I don't expect e...

shafique

Did I miss your updated count? As, I said, if you're having trouble with the arithmetic - I'm sure others will jump in and help. Thus far I can only see one numpty terrorist which I've matched. I've also given you an example of a Jewish Terrorist and asked you to condemn him as such - you refuse. Th...

shafique

I just also wanted to point out that eh-oh seems to be addicted to giving misleading selective quotes - by selective, I specifically mean not giving the whole truth. For example, compare what he said above and what was actually subsequently agreed to when establishing the groundrules: Cool, we are m...

shafique

Whilst I agree with the gist of what has been said about the UN and US arrogance etc, I have to make the pedantic point that the US bombing of Kosovo/Serbians was not done with UN approval but as a Nato initiative. I agree that the spin has been that the US bombed Serbs to prevent or because Muslims...

shafique

Still waiting for the updated count. Please save feigned indignation for another thread where it may be relevant. But let me thank you for quoting me asking for numbers and confirming that you still haven't condemned the one Jewish terrorist example I gave (in this and other threads). It has taken n...

shafique

^Red Chief - you misunderstand me, I was agreeing with you in regards to the bombing by Nato. I know the story is that the bombing was done to save Muslims being slaughtered etc, but I was pointing out that the facts are that the bulk of the killings of Muslims took place after the Nato/US bombings....

shafique

As I said, it is interesting that you started a new thread on exactly the same topic. Did you think I would not notice or that I would suddenly forget that I posted a fuller account of the incident to counter your selective quotes and Orientalist interpretation/spin? I understand you may not have u...

shafique

I would normally challenge such a post with an examination of the 'absurdities' in the Quran with an examination of the texts and whether there are metaphorical interpretations - but with eh-oh, that would be as useful as hitting one's head against a brick wall! Let me therefore just refer him/her (...

shafique

I'm not worried at all - I'm just glad you keep giving me an excuse to repeat that I agree with your first post (and the title of this thread) that the Quran contradicts your interpretation of 9.29.

Thank you.

As for me re-pasting the answers I gave earlier - CBF mate.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

^ I see that eh-oh is having trouble with the quote function. So sad. I presume you are trying to use the same argument I've used for your thread - that you now agree that the Bible contains contradictions if we interpret: 'Don't speak in Church' as 'don't speak in church'. But as I said in my previ...

shafique

Given it took 4 pages in the other thread to reach an impasse over whether Paul saying women should not speak in Church is a contradiction with the other verses saying women could speak, I thought I'd start a new thread for the next contradiction. Note we are testing eh-oh's assertion that the New T...

shafique

what part of 'cbf' confused you?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

They are the ones who are a military threat, as explained by the verses you posted in the 'contradictions' thread, where we agreed with you that the other verses of the Quran (explaining when wars should start, the reasons for going to war, and when they should stop) - all contradict the strange ori...

shafique

Thanks for confirming that you don't disagree with me then - Muhammad, pbuh, was a prophet 'like unto Moses' - both accused of war crimes.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

He was 1000 less 50 according to the Quran. Can be taken literally, as some scholars do - who point to the Biblical verses about Methusela (sp?) etc - or others say this is just the timespan between Noah and the next prophet. I'm with the latter school of thought. Next question. Cheers, Shafique

shafique

Umm - rather than wasting time repeating your prejudices about me, why not address the issue. I'm not the one who claimed the NT does not contain contradictions. Let's see what explanation you come up for this one - and how many posts it will take to get an answer. You can save us all a great deal o...

shafique

To compare the numbers you need to supply your numbers - is this really hard to comprehend? 'Again Again!' - I await your updated count. ;) As it stands, you have one terrorist and 26 killed and a few more suspects. I have one Catholic convert and one Jewish terrorist - just to show that trying to e...

shafique

bump for eh - I'm hoping he will find the humanity to condemn the religious terrorism of Goldstein and acknowledge him for what he was. The silence is a bit worrying - and appears that Islamophobia is not the only failing of eh-oh, but may also extend to supporting the killing of Muslim worshippers ...

shafique

This piece deserved its own thread, I thought - despite there being another thread on 'Christian Terrorists': Terrorism in the name of Jesus? Everybody ignore April 14, 2008 by marranci Certainly he has not the fascinating look of a bin-Laden and does not live in the mysterious caves of the Hindu Ku...

shafique

Ok, whilst I was waiting for you to expand the count to Asia, it appears you are still stuck at the count of one. Given you've unilaterally expanded the scope to the Americas (when initially it was UK), let me give you some references for terror killings by converts to Christianity in Northern India...

shafique

The list of terror acts by the 'Christian Al-Qaeda' as they are sometimes called, is here: http://www.satp.org/satporgtp/countries/india/states/tripura/terrorist_outfits/NLFT_tl.htm I make a count of around 32 killed in 2001, in around 20 different incidents. I submit that my count now stands at con...

shafique

It looks like the numbers are adding up. Glad we don't disagree that the NLFT are Christian terrorists. If you read the info I provided, you'll find that these guys are converts from Hinduism - so fits your criteria. One of their aims is to forcibly convert people to Christianity. It appears you hav...

shafique

Just to clarify: I am going to exclude the kidnapped and coerced children from the counts - that is why I'm only going to count a maximum of 500 actual LRA terrorists and why thus far only 100 have been added to my total. I should really add the kidnapped children to the list of victims, but as I ex...

shafique

Yes, a secondary meaning of Islam is peace Great, now you only need to cite some credible sources in support of your view. See, I knew you don't actually read what is posted! Let me connect the dots for you - Islam's meaning derives from the root s-l-m and the verb 'aslama' (you yourself quoted a r...

shafique

I forgot there was also ANOTHER unanswered question for our young american bible-basher, eh: Still - All Mouth, No Trousers: I'll be happy to compare the counts of the 'Christian terrorists' such as the LRA against the counts of civilians killed by Muslim terrorists. I'll let you count the number of...

shafique

Do you really imagine that Muslim men go about beating their wives because you believe the Quran says this is ok? It's not about his imaginations. They do it! I have seen it and I have seen the guy referring to Quran, look up the verse, show it to all and say it is ok!!! So, c'mon Melika - spill th...

shafique

Wow, a country decides to ban a man called Reginald Dwight because he has 'anti-religious' views and whose way of life is seen as backward (in the Soddom and Gomorrah sense) by the country. I mean, I couldn't imagine that the UK would keep out Louis Farakhan for his religious views (I actually would...

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