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Ah - brain now functioning a bit better... ;) On the 9/11 - my theory is that the FBI etc have worked out that the best way to hide a conspiracy is to include the facts within a web of conspiracy theories - so most will dismiss all the conspiracies. But then again, I think it gives them too much cre...

shafique

Hey, we're pretty tolerant here by-and-large. Even trolls are treated with some sympathy and are assumed they know what they are talking about - until that is they put the matter beyond doubt, then they just become annoying. ;) I must remember next Ramadhan to stop toying with trolls, though! :lol: ...

shafique

It's the quoting out of context that gets you every time - but hey, this must be normal in the Alice-in-Wonderland world where Muslims are instructed to fight all non-believers - :) But hey - as I said, I'm happy to condemn all massacres of civilians. We've seen your reluctance to condemn Goldstein'...

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'eh' asks for the context, and then complains the answer is too long. Did you forget the succinct answer I gave at the beginning: 'the ones who were a military threat to the Muslims' (and are referenced in the rest of Chp 9). Do you imagine other words in verses, or is just the one word 'all'? ;) As...

shafique

Will we get an answer?

Hmmm

shafique

double post

shafique

I realised I should be clear what the question is:

eh -who are the 'your women' Paul is referring to?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

^Nah - the beard is too short...

http://www.chowrangi.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/Gay%20terrorist.bmp

(aka Osama bin shopping)

shafique

From the BBC today - more British numpties with fantasies of blowing up civilians. Bomb plot case 'a waste of money' Authorities have been criticised for pursuing a case against two teenagers who were cleared of planning a bombing at their school in Greater Manchester. A jury took 45 minutes to acqu...

shafique

Weird - the post above seems to be invisible?? Anyway - another case of Brit numpties with fantasies of blowing people up. This time they have been aquitted - because these guys were just some young men who had fantasies about blowing up their classmates and teachers. I can only imagine the headline...

shafique

Finkelstein has links to two articles on the recent expulsions, FWIW (they date from a few weeks ago):

Here's the second one:

http://www.normanfinkelstein.com/ominous-developments-in-the-uae-2/

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

While a concerted smear campaign is well underway to rubbish both the report and Judge Goldstone, this article from JP shows that not all Israelis are blind the truths apparent to the rest of the world: Rattling the Cage: A wake-up call from Judge Goldstone 09.16.2009 | The Jerusalem Post Larry Derf...

shafique

Yawn - change the record eh.

Chill and enjoy the Eid - or are you worried that the wild eyed Muslims are all out to get you?

Cheers,

shafique

It appears you did not read the long message which answered your question. What particularly confused you? Was it the absence of the word 'all' from the verses in question, or the fact that all the verses compliment each other and there isn't a contradiction? Only your interpretation of verses as be...

shafique

Women who chit-chat during mass. So women who chit chat in mass should shut up and only learn from their husbands. Cool - but I couldn't see where this interpretation comes from - did you just make this up? ;) But the problem in your novel interpretation is that Paul actually says 'Your women' ... ...

shafique

The authorities have decided to violate human rights and impose collective punishment. Perhaps they believe they are acting like the 'most moral army' in the world? I just condemn all acts of human rights abuses - and this is one of them. Collective punishment as defined by the conventions is inviol...

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tl:dr I can only imagine the headlines if they were 'Ahmed' and 'Jamal' from Bradford Ah, false analogies can be entertaining. The headlines would not be over Ahmed and Jamal who happened to go postal, but rather if their motivation to carry out a bomb plot was based on the texts and teachings of I...

shafique

As I said, if you have a new question that hasn't already been answered, I'll happily answer it. (And if you missed it - the answer is in the long post, highlighted in red and bold.) But for now (and whilst I wait for X Factor to be uploaded), let me wish you a happy Eid - even though it's Eid tomor...

shafique

Cool, it appears we at least agree that collective punishment should be condemned. (If you want to go over early Muslim history, happy to do so in the religion forum - here let's just stick to the present.) I hope you join me in condemning the demolishing of houses of the families of criminals - and...

shafique

I see that you are keeping yourself busy not answering the awkward question about the contradictions in the NT :) The alleged war crimes of the Prophet, pbuh, have been dealt with at length in earlier threads - just do a search and you'll find references to what historians say etc. Just cutting and ...

shafique

Please see the edit to the post above where I give a quote explaining the siege and the cutting down of the palms. As I said, a little learning is a dangerous thing... But, still waiting to hear about whether eh agrees with me about condemning Israeli collective punishments as crimes against humanit...

shafique

I'll wait for you to deal with the Banu Nadhir incident first and explain away the quote I gave above.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

I've pointed out that your interpretation of the universality of these verses is what is faulty - 9.29 is pretty clear when read in context of all the other verses talking about war. There is a verse which says 'do not pray' in the Quran. Would you argue Islam is unclear about whether to pray or not...

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Bump for eh.. Now, back to my question: Interesting that when asked to condemn Goldstein's actions and confirm that he was a religously motivated terrorist who killed whilst in Army uniform, rats scurries away and reads Fox News, rather than face the hard cold stats. ... I really now wonder whether ...

shafique

Cool, I'm glad you don't dispute the facts as per the quote I provided - I'll let you refer to primary sources, I've given you where I got the quote from and you are free to look into who the author was and his credentials. But just note that his account is not contradicting the quotes you gave - ju...

shafique

I've said it before, I'll say it again - You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink! ;) Anyway, if you think you have other verses of the Quran which you think are contradictory, I'll be happy to put you straight. As for the verses here - as shown above, they are not contradictory. T...

shafique

I see kidnapping and child soldiers (similar to the Sudan's kidnapping of children and using them as child soldiers) but that is not necessarily conversions. Anyways, Africa should be interesting as you have said. As many people who have been killed by the LRA, those casualties must be dwarfed in c...

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As I said, the stats are from the FBI and the Jewish religious fanatics were members of the JDL who also exported terrorists to Palestine (see link above). I fully understand you don't want to acknowledge the facts, and want to delay looking at the FBI list - but we'll wait for you to confirm or cha...

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I'm not surprised you're projecting your quaint view on Islam on to the bomber. You've exactly demonstrated the point the article was making - a refusal to accept facts - the attacks are explicitly because of the Pakistanis (including many civilians) being killed: “This is retaliation. And you could...

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The difference between a small tap and brutal assault is one of degree, not principle. What Mike Tyson might consider a pat on the back, is probably going feel to me like someone swung a sledgehammer at my shoulders. Agreed. A separate discussion is whether corporal and capital punishment is ever j...

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