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My post asked you to refer to what was written before - sorry for being unclear. I presume you understand that we can't use Winston Churchill's speeches about defeating the Germans, or Nelson's (or even Henry V's) pep talks about the French enemies - to conclude that the Brits are instructed to figh...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafique - contradictions in the Koran
Replies: 139
Views: 12787

I did thank you for providing the reference to Kung's book 'women in Christianity', but let me thank you again. You're welcome and you're totally free to drop Kung's name yet again for yet another book you have not read. Thanks. I read the passages I posted - where Kung contradicts you and says the...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For eh - Contradictions in NT
Replies: 87
Views: 9109

Pretty much strayed off topic now - but hey, happy to correct your misunderstanding and take you up on your challenge of answering unanswered questions. You say you will give your answer after I give mine - so let's see whether you follow through. (I fully expect it will another 'all mouth no trouse...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: UK fails to tackle home-grown terrorism: Pakistani officials
Replies: 16
Views: 2110

I presume that you didn't learn about the Prodigal Son proverb in Sunday school - or perhaps the meaning was too complicated for you? ;) I really don't see what the story is here - the Judge locked up the rapist but praised him for turning to God: Judge Anthony Goldstaub QC sentenced Stuart Wood for...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Rapist praised by judge for converting to Islam
Replies: 7
Views: 1358

but of course, if 'eh' thinks he knows more about the Bible than Professor Kung The irony here is breathtaking. I presume you don't realize I made that comment after you claimed you knew the Koran better than an Arabic speaking mainstream Muslim jurist. :) Kung says you're wrong in your 'belief' an...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Rapist praised by judge for converting to Islam
Replies: 7
Views: 1358

If you recall, I acknowledged I confused one massacre for another. I'm more than happy to fess up to a somewhat trivial mistake Finally. Phew - see it wasn't hard. In reality, you never did admit you made a mistake - even when I gave you the opportunity and proposed that you were confusing two diff...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: UK fails to tackle home-grown terrorism: Pakistani officials
Replies: 16
Views: 2110

I presume you understand that we can't use Winston Churchill's speeches about defeating the Germans, or Nelson's (or even Henry V's) pep talks about the French enemies - to conclude that the Brits are instructed to fight German and French troops today? Sure, if you believe these speeches (hadith) t...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafique - contradictions in the Koran
Replies: 139
Views: 12787

Believing you are right when experts you quote say otherwise is an interesting trait. May I suggest you do a bit more research before you quote someone else who disagrees with you, thinking they actually support your view. I am afraid you are mistaken - I have read Kung's book as well as having rea...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For eh - Contradictions in NT
Replies: 87
Views: 9109

Thanks for the lucid posts Shafique. It is held that the theocracies of the Middle Ages crumbled when clerics no longer held the sole power to interpret the Bible and therefore dispense religious wisdom, which happened mainly due to Bibles being printed in English and German rather than Latin, and ...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: question on marriage betwn non-muslim men and muslim women
Replies: 30
Views: 10121

Faith healing - pure luck?

I’m currently reading ‘Fooled by Randomness’, by Nasim Nicholas Taleb (whose other books include ‘the Black Swan’). A very enjoyable read and recommended – especially if you want to find out a bit more about the difference between correlation and causality ;) Just an interesting fact I wanted to sha...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Faith healing - pure luck?
Replies: 2
Views: 1245

I dont know maybe my englsih is weak, but i really dont get your point in your posts! why should an astronomer even search about rate of cancer cure?!! you mean people can pray and this will cure their disease? maybe you can be a minister of health in ahmadinejad's government! Sagan just looked at ...
by shafique
Sep 14, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Faith healing - pure luck?
Replies: 2
Views: 1245

You keep saying the Quran contains contradictory passages - just because you believe this to be the case does not make it so. The complimentary passages you posted here about war do not contradict each other. You are confusing the fact that the full context of 9.29 is to be found in historical accou...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafique - contradictions in the Koran
Replies: 139
Views: 12787

It is even more stranger that you should argue that there wasn't a difference between Jewish and Pauline Christianity You're free to point out these differences between Jewish-Christian belief (according to Kung) and what Paul writes in his epistles. The differences between Pauline Christianity and...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For eh - Contradictions in NT
Replies: 87
Views: 9109

But, let us play your game for a while and review what the Bible says: 1 Corinthians: 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them a...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For eh - Contradictions in NT
Replies: 87
Views: 9109

Now, back to my question: Interesting that when asked to condemn Goldstein's actions and confirm that he was a religously motivated terrorist who killed whilst in Army uniform, rats scurries away and reads Fox News, rather than face the hard cold stats. ... I really now wonder whether he does, afte...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13272

If true, it would give good grounds for expecting terrorist recruits to come from the ranks of those converted to Islam, especially those with an axe to grind against their former beliefs. Just tossing this in, I don't have an opinion myself. Well, it is a valid theory and one that we were examinin...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13272

I see that shafique has confused two different historical events (similar to how he confused passages clearly written in Paul's epistles and thought they must have been the writings of another apostle, etc). Perhaps shafique can clarify what he meant by his comment that the massacre of a village wa...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: UK fails to tackle home-grown terrorism: Pakistani officials
Replies: 16
Views: 2110

Ahh, I remember now. This stems from John of Nikiou (sp?) account from his work 'Chronicles'. Yes, I agree - killing women and children is a massacre and I condemn any such account and condemn this. We previously discussed the fact that this account is only found in this Christian Monk's account, an...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafique - massacre @ Bahnasa
Replies: 9
Views: 1736

Please try and make up your mind 'eh' and focus. This thread is about whether the NT contains contradictions or not. You are not explaining who the women are that Paul is referring to when he says they should not speak in church (actually he is addressing men and telling them 'your women'...) Will y...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For eh - Contradictions in NT
Replies: 87
Views: 9109

^I searched in vain for a new question/point that has not already been addressed.

I couldn't find one that hasn't been addressed a few times already.

You can take a horse to water, but you can't make it drink!

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafique - contradictions in the Koran
Replies: 139
Views: 12787

But, let us play your game for a while and review what the Bible says: 1 Corinthians: 14:34 Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience as also saith the law. 14:35 And if they will learn any thing, let them a...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For eh - Contradictions in NT
Replies: 87
Views: 9109

There appears to me to be a parallel track here when it comes to 'jihadist' terror attacks. First there is the 'Al Qaeda' league of terrorists - those who are actually controlled by Bin Laden or his organisation, who have actually carried out only a limited number of attacks on Western targets, IIRC...
by shafique
Sep 15, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: For shafique - Muslim converts and terrorism
Replies: 137
Views: 13272

I'm happy to condemn any killing of women and children in warfare, and any massacres that happened (whether real or just reported by Christian monks). If Muslims carried out the massacres, they are to be condemned - the religion of those carrying out the massacres is irrelevant in terms of whether t...
by shafique
Sep 16, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafique - massacre @ Bahnasa
Replies: 9
Views: 1736

Just to make it clear for shafique: Let me ask again - who were the unbelievers that the Koran says to fight against because they are non-Muslims? Let see if you read what people post - what explanations did rudeboy et al give you for this verse - what was confusing about their explanations? Do you...
by shafique
Sep 16, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For shafique - contradictions in the Koran
Replies: 139
Views: 12787

Ahh, the disapointment - no answer, just a cut and paste of my comment to you. ;) Do you not know who Paul was addressing? The context was that 'your women' should not speak in Church, and should ask their husbands if they want to learn. Isn't the context that this is in the canonised Bible? So, who...
by shafique
Sep 16, 2009
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: For eh - Contradictions in NT
Replies: 87
Views: 9109

On 'Dateline London' this week one of the journalists - a Brit - made the following comment.. 'we have to recognise the fact that there will be some adolescent boys that go off-the-rails. Some join neo-nazi groups and some make martyrdom videos. I feel sorry for them..' I thought that was quite insi...
by shafique
Sep 16, 2009
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: This is Scary!
Replies: 3
Views: 645

Re: Stupid Folk

^LOL

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by shafique
May 14, 2010
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Stupid Folk
Replies: 33
Views: 3648

Re: Wife Beating In The Koran - Split From Politics Forum

Part 1 - does God say that men can batter their wives? Or is this verse about corporal punishment? It clearly allows wife battery, any mind read that verse could understand that. Again I have asked this question many times, If if if this is a bout corporal punishment, how come he didnt give this pe...
by shafique
May 14, 2010
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Wife beating in the Koran - split from Politics forum
Replies: 93
Views: 7646

Re: Times Square Bomber - Why?

The reason for the bombing was that the US is killing Pakistani civilians.

The title of the article sums it up nicely:
Times Square bombing in retaliation for U.S. drone attacks, No connection to Islam

Let me know if you are still confused.

cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
May 14, 2010
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Times Square bomber - Why?
Replies: 50
Views: 2630

Re: Wife Beating In The Koran - Split From Politics Forum

What I think is that all physical abuse is an offence against humanity, and is especially offensive when the abuser is physically stronger than the abusee, and is even more especially offensive when the abuser uses some form of authority to justify the abuse (for example law or religion), and is ev...
by shafique
May 14, 2010
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Wife beating in the Koran - split from Politics forum
Replies: 93
Views: 7646
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