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Strawman? :) Never mind - you say one terrorist over 8 years, I provided the body count of 26 victims. You refuse to acknowledge that my count exceeds 26. You also say you condemn all terrorist acts - yet you are silent when I ask you to confirm that Goldstein was a religously motivated terrorist wh...

shafique

Why would I not like the facts as presented? The guy pleaded guilty - he was a numpty. The 'leader' has been aquited and the police informer (now rich ex-informer) says the kids were harmless. The fact the numpty wanted to kill and was stupid enough to be entrapped means he deserves to be put away. ...

shafique

I see that rather than sticking to the topic of the thread and producing stats of numbers of terrorists and the numbers of their victims, rats feels the need to quote Fox News. Interesting that when asked to condemn Goldstein's actions and confirm that he was a religously motivated terrorist who kil...

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In any event, it would be interesting to guess which convert will commit or attempt to commit the next terror attack - Muslim convert or non-Muslim convert? Uh oh. Looks like my prediction didn't take long to come true. 'next' ??? Another epic fail by rats. The first story relates to He referred to...

shafique

Fair enough - the references are quite easy to find - I suspect had you spent another minute on Google you would have found them. Why don't you start with Chapters XV and XVI of his 'History of the Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire' - which deal with early Christian History. And then read his fol...

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As it is Ramadhan, I am feeling a little charitable. rats will confirm that Gibbon as a reference came up in our discussions on Pauline Christianity and the Muslim view that this corrupted Jesus' actual message. One of the differences between Pauline and Jewish Christians was on the divinity of Jesu...

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Epic failure, followed by denial. I see a pattern here. :) I guess rats has realised that 'next' can't apply to an event from 8 years ago. If the challenge is still on - i.e. to provide stats to back up the Fox News beliefs of rats, then let's wait to see the stats produced - including (hopefully) t...

shafique

Interesting that when asked to condemn Goldstein's actions and confirm that he was a religously motivated terrorist who killed whilst in Army uniform, rats scurries away and reads Fox News, rather than face the hard cold stats. ... I really now wonder whether he does, after all, belong to the group...

shafique

You start a thread asking for a reference from Gibbon to show that the Bible is not a trustworthy source of historical information because it contains forged verses - asked and answered. I've even given you one verse in question from the NT which Gibbon showed was a fabrication - a fact that was dis...

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Just because I'm feeling particularly charitable, here is a quote from a Christian web site which deals with the 'textual problems' of the NT: .. Letting the public in on scholarly secrets about the text of the Bible is not new. Edward Gibbon, in his six-volume bestseller, The Decline and Fall of th...

shafique

Interesting that when asked to condemn Goldstein's actions and confirm that he was a religously motivated terrorist who killed whilst in Army uniform, rats scurries away and reads Fox News, rather than face the hard cold stats. ... I really now wonder whether he does, after all, belong to the group...

shafique

You asked for the reference from Gibbon - it has been provided. It shows that what is in the Bible is not historically accurate as it contains fabrications - especially on the point Gibbon pointed out regarding the Pauline Christian doctrine of Trinity. I presume you are now satisfied that Gibbon di...

shafique

FD - the list is the FBI's list of terrorist acts, not mine and not the author of the article. Again, the fact that the academic study referred to in the opening paragraph of the article concludes that the Muslim extremist threat has been exagerated is backed up by the FBI's list. Even if you remove...

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This is the article referred to in the thread about the reality of Terrorism in the USA. (This is CNN's summary): STORY HIGHLIGHTS Study released Wednesday by researchers at Duke University and UNC-Chapel Hill 139 people listed as "Muslim-American terrorism offenders" since 9/11 Summarized...

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The Times Square Bombing was in retaliation for the US bombing Pakistanis - I'm glad you're eventually catching on. I presume you're not going to argue that the bombings of Pakistanis was a religious war - so why would the retaliation be anything to do with religion? The group killing Pakistanis hap...

shafique

Ah, young man - you failed to see my cunning plan. ;) Did you not know there was a Europol report on terrorism in Europe (including the UK)? Would you care to guess whether the percentage of terrorists that were Muslim in the years of the survey (2007 to 2009 IIRC) showed that the proportion was abo...

shafique

It's a sad, sad situation
And it's getting more and more absurd
It's sad, so sad
Why can't we talk it over???

shafique

So, no guesses then?

Fair enough. We'll review the evidence and compare against 'beliefs'/'perception' on Monday then.

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

So, which of the 318 terrorist acts were tree spiking then? Were they part of the 20 'malicious destruction' - given that 209 were bombings, aren't you just airing your desperation? ;) Stats speak for themselves. I know you refuse to condemn JDL export terrorist Baruch Goldstein, but do you also ref...

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Ha ha. Nice one. The article says the retaliation is over the killing of Pakistanis by drones. Even your soldiers agree that they have killed civilians, and lawyers in your country doubt the legality of the killings. It is moot whether the retaliation is over the killing of Pakistani fighters or Pak...

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Berrin, if every dispute between a husband and a wife ends with the husband being right (or else), how exactly would that be considered a functional marriage? It wouldn't - you are right, eh. But let me clarify with you - do you think that any teaching that says a man is the head of a family and th...

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Now, now - don't jump to the most obvious answer! ;) This is an article which draws upon a Gallup survey and Carroll argues/concludes that : " The Gallup poll showing a link between anti-Semitism and Islamophobia is a clear indication that profoundly irrational forces are at work. ... The Gallu...

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Good point DK - but there's also some violent elements in Buddhism - in 1997 3 monks were murdered in the Dalai Lama's compound in India over a dispute over whether a certain god/spirit (Dorje Shugden) should be worshipped (the Dalai Lama had pronounced that this worship should stop - the dissident ...

shafique

Yes, I agree eh - McVeigh's Oklahoma bombing and the 9/11 attacks are the outliers on the list. All the other terrorist attacks kill relative few people and most cause no injuries. Put it another way, of the top two lethal attacks - one was by Muslims, one wasn't. The point still remains though, 94%...

shafique

Hey, I'm glad we both agree with you that the Koran tells women to be obedient towards their husbands. Well, it says Good women are obedient - not quite the same. However, as I said above for the purposes of this discussion, we can take it as the same as the Biblical commandment for women to submit...

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Ok - I understand you consider the Quran to be misogynistic. For the purposes of this question, I agree that 4.34 says the same thing as Ephesians in relation to women being told to be subservient to men. Does your intpretation of 4.34 mean you consider the Quran is not the word of God because it co...

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Pot, kettle, black.. ;) What facts did the article get wrong? The Pakistan Taliban said they'd retaliate for US bombings - and followed through. They didn't say they'd bomb the US because they hate Christians/Non-Muslims etc - so just 'imagining' or 'believing' the retaliation is about religion says...

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When Buddhist monks kill other Buddhist monks over a difference in Buddhist theology - I'd call that 'violent elements in Buddhism'. What would you call it? I agree it is as anomolous as followers of a Prophet who said 'turn the other cheek' and yet slaughtered communities of Jews as an act of relig...

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