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This is an article very much based on the current situation on the US. But it also amazes me that in the modern economy money is all based on trust (unbelievable isn´t it, that we trust each other in this matter!). Money is all virtual nowadays, since in every modern economy the money supply is not...

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a ... l_id=21768

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agree ebonics - I try to avoid all mechanically processed meats. Interestingly the article seems to single out processed pig meat products - and this is in a UK tabloid paper (that is quite right wing). The sausages and bacon tend to include nitrates/nitrites (or something similar) which some say ar...

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ebonics - let me declare an interest, I work in life insurance and one of my specialities is critical illness - which includes cancers. You are right - Spain has a high intake of pork related products and a higher life expectancy than the UK. However, when you look at bowel cancer in particular, Spa...

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You are treading on dangerous ground when you start trying to justify religious befiefs using scientific studies. You should not need any other reasons for not eating pork other than those given by PBUH Muhammad. Out of interest, what are they??? I haven't mentioned religion in this thread - but no...

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ebonics - stats can be interpreted in many ways, all one can do is look at evidence and see whether the findings support the theory or not. It would be interesting to see if the findings of the original article can be replicated in other countries. I'm sure just these stats won't change many people'...

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Are there any studies done whether people who eat halal have a longer life expectancy than others? That would be interesting to me. I remember reading somewhere that Jews eating kosher have a slighly longer life expectancy. Also concerning food and drinking habits, the following saying comes from s...

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You're right. People are far more worried about the fat content in pork rather than the risk of getting cancer. The popularity of aspartame proves this, but that is a different topic all together. Regarding the cleanliness of pigs, I once had a pet pig, and I can confirm that they are very clean an...

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As for wine, it is no surprise to Muslims that there is some benefit in alcohol - all the studies show there is a 'J' curve - small amounts are beneficial, but increasing amounts are not beneficial. The fact that the Quran states this fact is for Muslims a reinforcement of faith, and I guess for ot...

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ebonics, the Quran forbids alcohol and gambling, but aknowledges there are some benefits to both, but the bad out-weighs the good. The verse forbidding alcohol and gambling is : 5v9 O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- o...

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FD - for me the issue was not whether Nikah meant legal sexual intercourse or not, but whether it was a profane word. From the above, I'm not sure whether inivit feminam is the latin meaning that was translated into Dutch as 'he f..d the woman' or not, but if it is isn't 'f..d' being used to mean se...

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Shafique, please donot get me wrong here. I donot try to bash to alcohol thing in Islam here. I think it is in general a great thing that the Quran warns against the usage of alcohol (just look around you and see how much damage it does). Only, when using common sense I cannot see how moderate use ...

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I think we've flogged this particular dead horse enough

At least now I know how to swear in Arabic!

Cheers,
Shafique

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saying that alcohol is the work of satan, and saying that alcohol has benifits for humans, is saying satan can do work that is benefitial to humans. which contradicts every other saying thereof about satan in the quran... its quite clear as day really. :) Good try ebonics. Actually does raise an in...

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all you have to say is that the quran says satan does good for humans.... and you can put my claim down the toilet from there. so does the quran say that satan can do good for humans? Can I quote from Genesis to show that Satan tells the truth and God lies according to the Bible? Compare what both ...

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ebonics, what is confusing about this Quranic verse? 5v9 O ye who believe! Intoxicants and gambling, (dedication of) stones, and (divination by) arrows, are an abomination,- of Satan's handwork: eschew such (abomination), that ye may prosper. How does it contradict: Chapter 2 v219 THEY WILL ASK YOU ...

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fyi, bacon is available at abela supermarket, a huge pig product and bacon section there... so there goes that theory. May be it is too much bacon then? :) Satan can use things with some good in them for evil purposes - simple. If a hammer is used to kill someone, it does not mean that the hammer c...

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See, it wasn't hard to reach agreement!

Cheers,
Shafique

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I work in life insurance and one of my specialities is critical illness - which includes cancers. So, how would you treat people who drink one glass one wine a day, would you consider giving them favourable conditions (opposite to people eating pork)? This was my intention when pointing out that al...

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However, the biggest factors for mortality in applicants for insurance in a normal country are age, love , smoker status, height/weight/exercise and then drinking amounts. :D :D :D :lol: It's all your fault, you lulled me into a sense of complacency when I found out you could say sexual! :)

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My understanding of the objective of satan is to lure people to the dark side. With this in mind, if you were satan, and you wanted people to drink something that had harmful sideaffects, would it not make sense to make it attractive in other ways? The number of people that drink alcohol is directl...

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It is also interesting to note that prior to Islam the Arab culture was one of heavy drinking and womanising. To have a person reform the Arabs and make them give up these traits is recognised by all historians as one of the great achievements of Muhammad, pbuh. I already stated my admiration for w...

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and require marriage before s.e.x. I've never heard any mulsims preach this. Have you heard muslims preach that fornication is ok? :shock: :) (Islam isn't the first religion to preach that fornication is a sin, but it was revolutionary for the Arabs) It reminds me of a joke - you always pay for s.e...

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Shafique, I think your choice of words is a bit awkward. I heard of religions teaching no s.e.x. before marriage. But, saying marriage is required for s.e.x., sounds like the main reason to marry is s.e.x. As I am not a native Engligh speaker I stand corrected...but this is how it comes across to m...

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muslims fornicate with the pretence that they can go and do a hajj at the end of the year, and all their fornication is then forgiven... saudi's are the biggest offenders when it comes to that practice. Wow. I always was in awe of Catholics who could sin and then go and confess and do a few hail ma...

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Wow. I always was in awe of Catholics who could sin and then go and confess and do a few hail marys! But this one takes the biscuit! of course that is a load of horse sh!t... if someone does sin with the intention of "hail marying" it off - no hail mary is going to save them.. as retarded...

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In India they also have a dowry, but its paid to the groom (´s family). Isn´t a brideswealth paid to the bride? Apologies if it is a stupid question, but I always thought per definition a dowry is paid to the groom... Yes, in India the groom receives the money. Yes, you are also right that Dowry us...

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Why should a Jew believe your interpretations and reject the OT when it says Elijah needs to descend bodily from heaven and the Messiah needs tw decades later the Romans ransack Jerusalem). woah! The banishment of wars - surely you do know that it's referring to the Second Advent. Don't Muslims bel...

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freza, concerning Lot - the Bible says he offered his daughters to strange men and slept with his daughters them after they got him drunk, then in the NT ( 2 Peter 2:7) he is called a righteous man by Peter, and the OT tells us that he was saved by God. As Muslims, we believe the bits about Lot acti...

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Thanks freza - I actually agree that your point of view is a valid one. I happen to have a different point of view. I think our respective opinions don't change the basic fact that the Bible can be used to reject true messengers of God - Jews do this for Jesus, and (from a Muslim perspective) Christ...

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