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Thanks ebonics - it is good to see both sides of the argument.

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Shafique

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Didn´t Mohammed break the peace treaty? Thereby coming back from a previous oath? Would a prophet do that? I stated earlier that I did not think Muhammad, pbuh, ordered the raid that broke the treaty. I went and refreshed my memory of the situation and I quote from the book: Muhammad, A Biography o...

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It is also interesting to ponder over the Biblical prophecy that God will make the descendants of Ishmael into a great nation. All historians agree that this was only fulfilled when the Arabs unified under Islam - before then (and arguably after the decline of the Arabic Islamic empire), the descend...

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I was looking up a reference in 'Muhammad, A Biography of the Prophet' by Karen Armstrong, when I came across this excerpt which caught my eye. pg 231 "Over the centuries in the West, we have tended to think of Muhammad as a grim figure, a cruel warrior and a callous politician. But he was a ma...

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packsaddle wrote:God allows evil to flourish in many forms.
Blessings.

Can I ask if you are a Jewish person who rejects Jesus, as this is an argument that is used to reject Jesus.

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Shafique

shafique

ebonics - nostradamus didn't claim to be a prophet of God. According to Deut 18 - only true prophets who make prophecies in the name of God have the prophecies come true. I know you don't believe in the Bible, but that is what it says. As for Moses and Muhammad, pbuh - in two important aspects they...

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Shaf why did God treat Mohammad so incredibly different from the other prophets? God didn't. I started the thread about Biblical criteria so that we could compare and contrast. Muhammad, pbuh, was treated as a Prophet and behaved as previous Prophets. Wait. Did Mohammad actually admit to transgress...

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freza - you asked what prophecies are contained in the Quran that were fulfilled. http://www.answering-christianity.com/prophecies_muh.htm According to the Bible, only true prophets of God can make prophecies in the name of God and they come true. So just one prophecy coming true - if made in the na...

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jews dont consider jesus or christians evil. as such i dont see the point in your comparison? They consider false prophets as evil, and by extension the religion. They reject Jesus because they say he did not fulfil the prophecies contained in their scripture. http://judaism.about.com/library/3_ask...

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Islam teaches that all animals to be treated kindly. Muslims pray in their houses and prostrate on the ground, as you know. Therefore generally shoes are removed in the house and the ground kept clean (much like Japanese culture). Allowing pets which roam outside to also roam inside a house compromi...

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Now, I do believe Jesus to be the Messiah for the Jews. However, it is interesting to note how Jewish scholars use the Bible to reject Jesus. I draw parallels with Christians using the Bible to reject Muhammad, pbuh. III. The Requirements for the Messiah and Christian Contradictions. A. Here is just...

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ebonics - yes Muhammad, pbuh, is considered a model for all Muslims. No, the examples you showed are of people not following Islam. I'm surprised at your last argument that Islam condones s.e.x outside of marriage. I think you have some valid arguments, but when you post arguments like this it discr...

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You will excuse me if I choose to believe all the translations of the verse which all say 'marry'. I'm happy to look at any evidence you can show - perhaps now the word used in the Quran has a different colloquial meaning - I don't know as I don't speak Arabic. Islam is pretty clear about the sancti...

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What does najis mean and why can't you be kind to a dog whilst keeping it outside the house?

Islam doesn't teach that we should punish an animal if comes into a house.

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Shafique

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I've just watched it. I also encourage people to watch it - I don't think it will change any one's mind.

It may encourage some people to read the Quranic verses quoted.

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Shafique

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ebonics - as you are an Arabic speaker, I trusted you knew what you were saying. Ankihoo/Ankiho or f'ankihu/f'ankihoo is invariably translated as 'marry' in all English translations. You say it actually means 'f....k'. However, I find that: The first word of this verse begins with "ankihu"...

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:) No Imam, to my knowledge, says we should be cruel to dogs. This is the point - we need to be kind to animals and this is what Islam teaches. I don't see what is confusing you. Yes, they are considered unclean because they shed hairs, drool etc - but dogs are still kept as pets by many Muslims - m...

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I don't think it will change the minds of non-Muslims either. Most people are quite rational and won't blindly swallow propaganda, especially if it is sensationalist as this. Those who are already prejudiced won't be changed. My experience though is that many will be spurred into asking questions ab...

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again shafique, you dismiss what you chose to dismiss, with personal choice, with no research strike 2. :lol: It's a good thing I did some research and found that ankihoo means 'Marry!' and is the imperative form of 'Nikah', marriage. So, I rejected your interpretation because of all the translatio...

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Good try ebonics - but you have been caught in a lie. The only question now is whether it was an intentional lie or just a schoolboy mistake due to lack of research. Nikah means marriage, the words in the Quran all say 'marry' - the imperative form of the noun Nkh. If you are saying that Nkh was onl...

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Ok, we agree Islam doesn't advocate cruelty towards animals.

Whenever my kids go to a petting zoo, they always wash their hands afterwards. It's called basic hygiene. This is quite good advice, is it not?

Cheers,
Shafique

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i actually take offence to calling me a liar, ask any arabic speaker what does "neek", "neyaka" , "nak" - which is used heavily in egyptian, lebanese dialects, all mean.... they all derive from the same word, that i repeat, the LITERAL meaning thereof is the act of s.e...

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Perhaps dogs are carnivores and harbour more germs? Perhaps dogs are small enough to come into houses and will go into areas that are dirtier than a horse or camel will. Many reasons - but to be honest, I don't know the answer as it isn't really something I have thought about. I think it would be a ...

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Here is the entry from Lane, fully referenced: Nun-Kaf-Ha = to tie, make a knot, contract, to marry, marriage. nakaha vb. (1) perf. act. 4:22, 33:49 impf. act. 2:221, 2:230, 2:232, 4:22, 4:25, 4:127, 24:3, 24:3, 33:53, 60:10 impv. 4:3, 4:25 n.vb. 2:235, 2:237, 4:6, 24:33, 24:60 ankaha vb. (4) impf. ...

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yes, I agree. and you also made some invalid points to discredit Baha'i faith as a post Islamic religion. This is the cycle. Everyone will stick to the religion they were born with and argue that the others are false. I just believe that the world is big enough for all of us to live with our own be...

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I wonder who Crusader actually is.

Nice one.

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Shafique

shafique

the primary meaning according to quran, is marriage.... prior to that, was not. shafique for a none arabic speaker you're arguing for the sake of argueing now. :) it literarly means to sleep with, in the quran it means to marry and have marital affairs with - but as a word, it is considered a dirty...

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I need some help in the Religon section from Arabic speakers... the Quran uses the word 'ankihoo' and this is translated as 'Marry!' and Lane (the lexicon) defines this as the imperative form of Nikah (nKH) which is marriage. Despite this, a person is saying 'ankihoo' is the equivalent of 'fxxk' rat...

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ebonics - I quoted from a lexicon, you have given no other proof. I await the comments of other Arabic speakers as to whether they think 'ankihoo' is a dirty word or not. Nikah is not a dirty word - it is what all Muslims call the marriage ceremony. I can't see how the imperative form of this word c...

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ebonics - you say you do not lie and hate liars. Do you honestly tell me that you believe that all the Arabs who read or listened to the Quranic verse you quoted did not understand Allah to be saying 'Marry!', but understood it to mean 'have s.e.x with'? Lane is a lexicon of Arabic - it is not confi...

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