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FD - I have not heard of 'misyar' marriages, I'd be interested in reading about which sects follow this (and what exactly this is). MC - my debates (or rather discussions) with Shia covered pretty much all the basic differences between Shia and Sunni. I was given a lot of material to read about why ...

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Mormons and Scientologists don't call themselves Christians, but JW do - their faith is based on their interpretation of the Bible.

I hesitate to deny someone their professed faith - but it appears that some Christians aren't that charitable!

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Shafique

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Well, that sounds like prostitution to me - but it's a bit bizare that it requires one of the two parties (presumably the lady) to not know that it will be a temporary arrangement. I mean, how does that work? :) So, I stand corrected - temporary marriages may also take place amongst sunnis as well -...

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Thanks - I was wondering why my head was spinning!

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Well - you live and learn!

Cheers,
Shafique

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freza - I have nothing more to add on these two verses. If you have some new information about the Greek language, please let me know - otherwise it is closed.

Nothing to see here, please move on.

Cheers,
Shafique

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The Quran itself - as I stated before, the Quran is internally consistent and does not contain contradictions. The Quran itself says there are clear verses and metaphoric ones: The Quran also says that the after life will be 'like nothing we can imagine' - and also says in a few places that the des...

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There are clear verses that are the basis of the Quran. These are unambiguous. There are some allegorical verses which talk about creation, the nature of God etc. The after life and its descriptions are by necessity allegorical, for the Quran states: We will raise you into a form of which you have n...

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Spoonman, I'll have to do some digging to get the references to the violent acts committed by Babis and Bahais, and also their links with Russia. The teachings of Bahais are very well presented and marketed. This is what initially attracted me to study their teachings, and I went back to primary sou...

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ebonics - do you believe the laws of physics and matter etc will apply in the life after death? Seeing requires light, eyes and matter off which light will bounce off and be received by the eyeball, sending neurons firing up the optic nerve and decoded in the visual cortex. I don't believe we will h...

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completely agree, so whats this talk of virgins, boys, gold this, silver that, comfortable couches, food, trees... arent these things all made of atoms? They are all metaphors - its like describing a colour to a blind person, you say it is a 'hot' colour, or a 'cold' colour. Describing heaven as a ...

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It's what I have been taught 56v61 means and there are many Hadith that make it clear that we won't have physical bodies in the after-life. I am told that the Arabic meaning of the verse makes it clear that this is the case - would you mind looking up the verse and telling me what you think it means...

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got that, some things are allegorical some are not. same as in the Bible. Yes. If I cannot have 'the slightest knowledge' of what form of being I will be n the afterlife, then that precludes that I will see, feel or sense in the way I do on earth - because I can experience these things and therefor...

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But a color is a reality for those that see. Knowing about Afterlife according to the Quran is NOT something that can be explained because no one living has knowledge of it unlike seeing people who know colors and can explain it or try to explain it to the blind. Knowledge of the afterlife is a rea...

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Talking about interpretations of scripture, this old article appeared as a 'top story' on the BBC News website today: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/3205727.stm It's about what the Bible says about being Gay. Makes interesting reading - Christians using the Bible to justify both sides of what i...

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freza, you say you criticise JW for 'flimsy' interpretations. Can you please elaborate on what interpretations are flimsy. What about the issue of whether being gay is a sin or not - see my post above - is it not the case there are scholars on both sides of the argument, both quoting from the Bible....

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I do see a lot of contradictions and double standards in your thoughts. You certainly do not apply the same rules that you use to judge the works of the Bible as you do to observe the Quran. Not by a long shot. You see a lot of contradictions and double standards - perhaps you can help me understan...

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sorry guys but since we are talking about sunnis and shias who exactly are the 12 imams? is this what sunnis believe in or the shias believe in?? anyone?? Do a Google rudeboy ! :) The 12 Imams are what a branch of Shia (the main branch) believe in. They are commonly called '12ers' - and the Shia of...

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heheh i would have googled it but you cant trust some of the websites on google when it comes to Islam ;). by the way dont the shias believe that the successor of Muhammad (PBUH) should be a descendant of Muhammad (PBUH)? Yes - the first Imam was Ali, the son-in-law and cousin of the Prophet, pbuh,...

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Will you drop your council of Nicea argument already. It's tired! I agree it's an old argument - but happens to be the truth though. No problems - I understand it makes you mad. Re: Quran, 1st I think that Islam is a very beautiful religion, I've said it before. But when it comes to the Quran I don...

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that is the bottom line everytime shafique goes " we consider muhammad the purist human to ever live" i didnt know weather to laugh or cry I challenge you to find a quote from me saying this in this or any other recent thread. btw 'purest' is the correct spelling. However, this is the bel...

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the point is its hard to take a prophet seriously with his colourful history. if u havent said that before shafique, excuse my failing memory - i recall you did.. i maybe wrong. No probs ebonics. There has been a lot of disinformation about the Prophet, pbuh, but fortunately there are now modern da...

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hehehe! I didn't know this childish side of you. What did I say about name calling? :) According to Arius Jesus was half-and-half, divine/human. Disagreements were about what Jesus was "made up of" not his condition of divinity and man and certainly not his resurrection. .. Despite what y...

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About Quranic integrity: does it mean that there always has been only one version of the Quran throughout history? And never did different versions (or codex) exist next to each other? The Quran is an Aural revelation which was transmitted Orally - the primary means of transmission was recitation a...

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There have been written codices which varied from one another, but these were either phonetic representations of different pronunciations or because of transcriptural errors. So, how do you know, which one is the correct one and which is one contains errors? The primary source of preservation is th...

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The primary source of preservation is the word-perfect memorisation of thousands of Muslims (now millions of Muslims). So, the integrity of the Quran is based on the assumption of people perfectly remembering the Quran instead of a written version? Yes. If all the printed Qurans in the world today ...

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