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Alex1111 wrote:Ebonics are u stupid?

A bit harsh?

Cheers,
Shafique

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ebonics - I agree with your view. 'This time its different' is what I keep hearing... but I'm not convinced yet. Happy to be proved wrong (and I was consistently proved wrong in the UK when I kept saying prices must fall - they only have recently started the downward trend..) That said, guys are sti...

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ebonics - what part of the thread title is confusing you?

Discussing hadith is not appropriate in this thread. I suggest you start a new thread and find someone who believes in this hadith to debate with you.

Cheers,
Shafique

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Someone made the point that Hong Kong has no-where to build but Dubai has desert,good example.However,the Dubai goverment can help to control prices by refusing planning permission. I'm pleased to see a healthy debate. Alex - your point about government restricting supply to keep prices up is a goo...

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Ian - I agree. I was just testing the logic - if supply is not restricted after all, then prices will/should fall. My view is that it is hard to argue that the actual and planned developments in Dubai are an indication of a desire to 'restrict' supply. Ergo - fundamentals will come home to roost. Ch...

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and find someone who believes in this hadith to debate with you. i admire your un-founded selectiveness to this day on this matter. Thank you. I am very selective when it comes to Hadith - as recommended by the compilers themselves. [Oh, and you have selected quite a mild hadith - there are many mo...

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Islam teaches that only humans will be judged on the day of judgement and only humans will be rewarded or punished, based on their deeds and capacity - and all subject to God's mercy. All living things have a life force (a 'rooh' in Arabic) which distinguishes them from in-animate objects. Only Huma...

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ebonics - you may be surprised to hear that the Islamic concept of heaven and hell is along the lines you are thinking. Heaven and Hell are in the same place according to one hadith - the place itself will be the same, however the state of the soul will dictate how they feel in that place. For those...

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ebonics - no I don't think you're strange yet :) Actually I agree with most of what you have written - as it is in accordance with what Islam teaches. Whilst we do not believe in reincarnation - that the soul is re-born, everything else you wrote is along the lines of what I believe, but just use sl...

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freza, I think you are missing the whole point of this thread. (Oh and welcome back.) ebonics stated that he did not think the Bible contained violent verses and challenged me 3 times to quote from the scripture. Hence this thread and hence the title. Note that I've always said that Christian theolo...

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For freza - I didn't realise I had posted a contradiction from the Bible in the post above (my memory must be going! :) ) Anyway - I'd be interested in your explanation of the above. I think it shows that at least one of these verses isn't true and therefore isn't the word of God. Cheers, Shafique

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Sticks and stones.. :) You choose which verses of the Bible to interpret literally, and so do I. So what is the fuss? It appears though that I am more liberal in my views, in that I acknowledge your right to choose different verses from me, but you call me names for my choices. My 'bias' is to give ...

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Freza - good try, but no cigar. The translation I give is accurate according to the ancient Greek - even your link says so! If you hover over the note in the translation (in the link you gave above) which they say is 'understand' the note says: " tn Grk “did not hear” (but see Acts 9:7). BDAG 3...

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Wow - I could not see the other 'blashpemous' images by Hussein as the links were down from the site. But I have to say, I could not understand why the painting on the page linked is considered blasphemous - to my untrained eye it doesn't look that good, but I can't see what the fuss is about. I've ...

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freza - you choose which 'true' experts to believe in - for instance calling some 'Christians' cults (eg Jehova's Witnesses). That said, I take it from your post that you now agree that the translation I quoted is accurate as both verses use the same Greek word for 'hear'? Are you saying that a pers...

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freza - here is another contradiction/error from the Bible. This one I haven't heard a convincing argument for yet: Did Jesus appear to twelve disciples after his resurrection (1 Corinthians 15:5), or was it to eleven (Matthew 27:3-5; 28:16; Mark 16:14; Luke 24:9,33; Acts 1:9-26)? The latter verses ...

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shafique, be thankful they arent throwing terms like "cut his hands", "kill the heretic" and JIHAD! if it offends, it offends, dont think its your position to say "i dont see what the fuss is about" they're protesting him peacefully through a petition, more civilised t...

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What does what I personally (well, along with quite many others) think about the JW have to do with the true interpretation of the Bible? Well besides the fact that the JW do not interpret it correctly? They say they follow the Bible and they have a different interpretation of it from you (i.e. do ...

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freza - the theologian comes up with an explanation for the contradiction, but agrees that the translations I posted are accurate. In a nutshell the argument is 'did not hear' does not mean the opposite of 'did hear' - but rather means 'did hear, but did not understand'. Also the quote from Mat 13.1...

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I've studied the Bahai faiths as well as the history. I got books and discussed with practicing Bahais as well. I've read one of their holy books - Kitab e Aqdas in full and a number of other books. Bab, who came before Bahai-ullah, was a claimed prophethood and new revelations but he suffered the f...

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Obama and Hillary are tokens in more ways than one. they're around to give hope to those people that believe the US government can "change" significantly anytime soon and on the basis of one individual. ha! as if. the republicans will not give up all their power or quest for it that easil...

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ebonics - I agree that the reason there are mistakes and contradictions in the Bible is because it is not the literal word of God. freza - I'll wait for you to address the issue of contradictions, and I am glad you are enjoying the conversation. I don't get your argument that we should reject JW bec...

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I'm only stating the truth, uncomfortable maybe, but not an insult. besides, Shafique likes it, it makes him want to save more souls. freza - I have to point out that you weren't stating the truth when you said I had quoted a wrong translation. I am happy to concede that Christians have an explanat...

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Spoonman, Well, I was typing from memory and therefore the lasting impression must be the negative comments! :) As for references, sorry, I do not have my notes and papers with me in Dubai (I was wary about bringing over such material). If you speak with the Bahais and ask them for examples of when ...

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ebonics - I agree with you that Islam is going through the equivalent of the Middle Ages in Christianity when religion was being misused. quote="freza"]revisiting.... 'Never accepted of him' means exactly what it says - God will not accept another religion above Islam and 'they will be amo...

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ebonics - I agree that the reason there are mistakes and contradictions in the Bible is because it is not the literal word of God. neither is the quran. Agree - all mistakes and contradictions in the Quran would be a sign of it not being the literal word of God. I just maintain there are no mistake...

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Dear Shaf, I've read a lof of their books (almost all of them in farsi and a few in arabic , though couldn't undrestand much of the arabic ones, as my arabic is in a very basic level) It is clearly stated that its a new religon completely different from islam while born from it. (it's like calling ...

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Ok, let's get this straight And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice , but seeing no man. ACTS 9.7 In this verse, the Greek word used is akou, and means 'to hear' - clearly says they heard a voice but saw no man. And they that were with me, saw indeed the, light and wer...

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I understand now - you agree with everyone who agrees with you. Thanks for clearing that up. So apart from Jehova's Witnesses, Scientologists, Zionist Christians (I think you mean 'Jews for Christianity' as most Baptist Churches in the US are pro-Zionist) and Muslims - you get on with everyone else?...

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Good topic. Any answers we give are going to be generalisations, as under each heading there are many sects. Sunni and Shia are actually a family of sects - and there is much that is common between individual sects. Historically, the division between Shia and Sunni was a political one, not religious...

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