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Hi, shafique. I have sent another e-mail to an earth science professor who specializes on earthquakes. He will probably respond in the coming days (monday). Excellent - as I said, I am not well read when it comes to geology. The reason I asked you if v27:88 was dealing with the end times was becaus...

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The reason I asked you if v27:88 was dealing with the end times was because the context of the verse appears to be clearly speaking about judgment day. The immediate verses before and after this verse are prophecies of the end of the world: I just confirmed with an Arabic speaker that v88 is in the...

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Ben How can you remove a cultural difference when incorporating Sharia Law into the British system. If it was, it would no longer be sharia law and therefore no point in incorporating it. THe British Legal constitution would never allow cultural differences. arnie - the British Legal constitution a...

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personal advice - do not jump into something like DMT without years upon years of intelligent natural occuring psychadlics (i dont consider LSD to be intelligent or natural) - im still about 10 years away from even considering DMT So what do u mean by natural occuring psychedelics? Probably magic m...

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No problems ebonics, the longer you take the longer I can remain in my state of blissful ignorance of any flaws in the Quran.

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To claim that a book is written by god and have the proof of that claim declared in the same book is not scientific or concrete. I have no issue in a statement that a book could be 'inspired by god' and written by someone who receives god's message - but to claim that a book is written by God is..w...

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but only one religion comes to mind that specifically uses the word "fight" and "kill" when dealing with none believers.. Wow, I didn't expect you to condemn the Bible in this way - or some of the other verses (this only talks about the killing of boys and married women, and spa...

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:lol: Take a chill pill ebonics, the Bible is one of the most violent pieces of literature in existence - even advocating what will be considered a war crime today (killing of all inhabitants and also the animals). However, I don't consider all Christians as war-mongers or that Christianity is a vio...

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Edit - so as to not 'hijack' Jabba's thread, I have started a new thread with the Biblical quotes requested by ebonics.

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In another thread ebonics asked to see Biblical quotes which state that non-believers should be killed. Here are a selection: For ebonics who asked for Biblical references for killing non-believers (even though the previous quote was about killing innocents): Kill Followers of Other Religions. 1) If...

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I don't have enough faith to be an atheist.

I agree it's possible that there isn't a creator, but the odds are so small I cannot bring myself to believe in that!

Cheers,
Shafique

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Hey Shaf, I don't mind what people believe in, it's their right to believe whatever they want. What I can't stand are these preaching posts. Religion and belief is a personal thing. I hear and agree with you Chocs - I think they are counter productive - those that believe, don't need them and those...

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No. It's talking about the ultimate death penalty that God can deliver- no everlasting life. The point is that ebonics asked for quotes from the Bible calling for the death of non-believers. QED. You say these should no longer be followed - fair enough. But they are in the Bible and therefore at le...

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again its becoming like groundhog day, this is the 2nd time you tell me to take a chill pill, the first time was when you got pinned down with no valid answer to my claim. i see a trend here. I started a thread - if that is 'no answer' what would be an answer? :lol: Anyway, for those who haven't go...

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now at the end of the day, based on the 2 quranic scriptures i quoted - muslims that say "we are a religion of peace" should just drop that claim, because there's no peace when they've got instructions to KILL none believers.. its a religion of peace for all muslims within muslims - grant...

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you gave me no answer regarding killing, crucifying, banishing from land, humiliating, cutting both hands and feet ? The Quranic quote speaks for itself - you quoted it and can read the original arabic. I could not see in your post where it said that all non-Muslims should be crucified. It lists a ...

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yes shafique, because i have enough brains to make my own decisions.. if you just followed what a prophet tells you - you'd be telling your wife to breast feed strangers. Do you really hate Muslims/Islam this much that you believe Muslims do this? your egypt fable is what they teach you in islam sc...

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ebonics wrote:
The just retribution for those who fight Allah and His messenger

this has nothing to do with crime, this is religious conflict, those who are against allah, and his prophet.

What does your dictionary say under the word 'fight'?

Cheers,
Shafique

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I don't have enough faith to be an atheist. Enlarge please shafique - how is faith involved in dismissal of something which cannot be proved to exist? How are the odds small? It's the old Ocram's razor principles, the watchmaker analogy or the comment that believing life came into being by chance b...

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Oh please the ancient Egyptians and Greeks knew all this before for Koran was written. The first point he raised was the big bang. Then he also talks about the universe expanding. To my knowledge, both these concepts only entered science in the 20th century (and even Einstein didn't believe the uni...

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Interesting clip - but she makes some fundamental errors in her claims. 1. The presenter correctly says that 'clash of civilizations' was not coined by the Muslims but by S Huntingdon. The reply that the Quran says to fight the non-believers and the world is divided between muslims and non-Muslims i...

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Shafique, she is talking about the now and present. During the Middle Ages as you point out, science (algebra, astronomy etc.) was much more developed in Muslim regions than in Europe. However, nowadays its the other way around. She same applies to rights for women. What caused this shift? I didn't...

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Actually the first thing I thought when I read your post was "ignorance". I can't really blame you though because alot of people pick quotes etc. out of other peoples religions, misunderstanding and giving their own twists to them, I'm guilty of it myself. I'd recommend reading the whole ...

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I pointed out that the Bible could actually furnish unambigious calls for violence. So you could read one sentence of a chapter book and understand without a doubt exactly/unambugiously what it is talking about? Its like overhearing half a conversation... can end up quite misleading! No - disagree ...

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Strawberries - do you agree with the summaries of the following verses, or is there another non-literal explanation for these: * In 1 Chronicles 21, God kills 70,000 innocent people because David ordered a census. * In Deuteronomy 3, God also orders 60 cities destroyed so that the Israelites can liv...

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ebonics - the difference is that you have a go at Muslims for dismissing dubious 'sayings' but in the same breath advocate the dismissing of verses of the Bible. We should compare like with like - the Quran should be compared with the Bible. You quoted the Quran out of context whilst I have tried to...

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A simple 'no ' would have sufficed.

Will we ever see your 'disection' of the Quran?

Cheers,
Shafique

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I think it is interesting that in the thread about Quranic contradictions each alleged contradiction was addressed without resort to insult or personal attacks. (Note that exchanges with ebonics was not on the subject of contradictions in the Quran) In this thread, we have just had blanket 'you don'...

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Some of my favourite quotes: 'Whatever can never continue to rise will eventually fall' 'This time it is different' and 'Turkeys never vote for Christmas' I don't gamble and am wary of debt - that means that I am just an interested observer in the current property market. Currently rents are lower t...

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would you like to explain to the kids at home why the lady above has a price on her head after a fatwa - making her blood "halal" ? Sure. But what has that got to do with the Bible? same with father zakaria boutros? a whopping 20 million US dollars... if islam is a religion of peace, thin...

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