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shafique, as much as i seem that im attacking - im not.. but muslims all around the world are trying to find answers to these questions from clerics - they are questioning logic.. It feels like you are just attacking. If you can just take the time and type out one question that relates to this thre...

im not asking for anyone to convert, no sweat off my brow.. but if someone is going to preach that the qur'an contains no contradictions, well please explain the things that are outlined in the religion that claims so.. ... still awaiting explainations.. thank you. As stated in the previous thread ...

ebonics - I don't understand arabic, so can't respond to the points made on you tube. The one link in dubbed English was on the justification of Trinity - and that was not convincing at all (but that relates to the Bible and not the Quran). Sorry, but unless you want to wait for me to learn Arabic (...

ebonics wrote:not all are like that, some of my dearest friends are muslims... but they also admit to the atrocities islam causes - they dont turn a blind eye. do you now see the difference?

Which part of 'I agree muslims commit atrocities' in my post above did you not understand?

Cheers,
Shafique

well in the case where the "wahy" landed on omar, not muhammad, because muhammad was in his house getting attacked by his women for his womanising.. i thought the wahy only landed on muhammad? or is there now another prophet in omar? so can the wahy land on anyone now? whats stopping me f...

shafique have you even watched the above? it is in english im going to watch it one more time, maybe i was still asleep in the morning and i misunderstood edit: after watching it one more time - you most definatly have not watched it to give the above comment... watch the video where i say the wahy...

Sorry to hear you believe only muslims mis-use their religion and commit acts of Terror. As an Egyptian (I presume) I am surprised you were unaware/forgot that the state of Israel was formed after terror attacks were made against the British - King David Hotel bombing is widely recognised as the fir...

jizya is a tax payable by non-Muslims. Muslims pay a different tax. In return, non-Muslims have freedom of religion and are exempt from military duty. References:I'll quote 3 Hadith (there are more): * Sunan Abu-Dawud Book 13, Number 2955 mentions that Umar ibn al-Khattab levied jizya on non-Muslims...

Yes, I know what Sahih is. I also know that not all Hadith in the Sahih are authentic and many are contradictory. I also know that in terms of authenticity the test is : 1. is it in accordance with the Quran 2. is it in accordance with Sunnah (practice of the Prophet, pbuh) 3. is it consistent with ...

Jabba - excellent question. My feelings are exactly as per the press release I posted earlier. In terms of Blasphemy - insulting God - the Quran is clear that there is no earthly punishment for blasphemers, and there isn't a punishment ordained for them. The only injuction of the Quran is for people...

In line with creation and the word day: In Sura 22:47 and 32:5 Allah's day is equal to 1,000 human years. In Sura 70:4, Allah's day is equal to 50,000 human years. Phew - you had me worried there :) 70.4 reads "The angels and the Spirit ascend to Him in a day, the measure of which is fifty tho...

Okay, here is a small recap on my side. Some explanations I found very creative. I didn´t want to get in a yes - no - yes - no kind of discussion. Any objective person reading the verses about alcohol finds it contradictory. Let me thank you for a civilised and enlightening discussion. I appreciate...

I've read that the list of laws in the NT is not exhaustive - in that if a OT law is not explicitly repeated in the OT, then Christians do not necessarily believe it does not apply (i.e. it can still apply, even though it is not in the NT). Well, you asked me originally if the New Testament had any...

Qur’an 018.047 One Day We shall remove the mountains, and thou wilt see the earth as a level stretch, and We shall gather them, all together, nor shall We leave out any one of them. Wouldn't this verse imply that the earth is flat? Yes - but the opening words are clear 'one day' God will remove the...

ebonics - can you clarify what comments you want me to make on hadith that I consider un-authentic? Surely we should go by what the actual practice of jizya was and assess whether Islam was spread by the sword or not. Do you disagree? Quran is the word of God, Hadith are prone to error - Bukhari wen...

you still havent answered me, have you watched the video about jizya, or you are still answering me without watching? My post above answers clearly the misinformation in the video. A non-Muslim that converts also has to pay a tax - so to convert because of Jizya makes no sense. Jizya is therefore n...

Thanks ebonics - but you have not presented any information on the taxes that Muslims had to pay. I also think you will fail to produce a reference for jizya being set at 75% of income. Anyway, I await the references. [ps I have loads of links to videos that prove NASA didn't land on the moon, that ...

success........... Sura 9 verse 29 [29] Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the Religion of Truth, from among the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, an...

ebonics - I cannot improve on my previous explanations and references.

If you have another topic to discuss, please bring it on.

cheers,
Shafique

i am baffled, bamboozled, and everything in between... Yes, I can see that. Where in the Quran does it say Muslim men can sleep with their illegitimate daughters? Do you really think Muslims go round, commit adultery so they can father daughters out of wedlock and then have relations with them? As ...

You evade the question I asked. Whilst you may think the Saudis are the foremost authority on Islam, that is not a view I (and many others) share. Why do you dismiss the Quran, hadith and historians and quote hypothetical and convoluted scenarios which seek to discredit Islam. What would your Christ...

ebonics wrote:
Kingdom of Saudi Arabia
Ministry of Islamic Affairs, Endowments, Da‘wah and Guidance

this is the primary source of all islamic teachings of anyone, world wide..

I think you need to check your facts.

Cheers,
Shafique

please look up the terms 'Wahabi' and 'Shia' and you will be enlightened.

Cheers,
Shafique

ebonics, take a chill pill man.

ebonics - congratulations, for once I am speechless.

ebonics wrote:so what

shia'ites and wahabi's are not muslims?


wahabis arent, but shia'tes most definatly are..


this is a suna website by the way.

nice try though.

There is no fooling you is there! You will forgive me for trying though, won't you?

Cheers,
Shafique

ebonics - I think I understand your frustrations. I saw a documentary recently about the Copt ghettos in Cairo. It showed how the Coptic community made their living predominantly by collecting, sorting and recycling the rubbish. It showed how by keeping pigs the communities became solely Christian n...

I have to admit that I was surprised by the results of the elections - at the apparent lack of corruption/manipulation. It sure makes interesting viewing - what coalitions will be made. I hope my natural instinct to believe that nothing will actually change is proved wrong - this time! (Note, I don'...

I'm warming to you rudeboy! :) I'm not sure how I think. I agree with FD that sport and politics should be kept separate as a general principle. I loathe hypocrisy though, and the sudden 'moral high horse' attitude towards China over the Olympics reeks a little of sour grapes and hypocrisy, especial...

Tesco acts as a retailer for insurance products as well - I used to consult for life companies (I worked for reinsurers in the UK) - and Tesco used to court many insurers and pit one against the other go get the best quotes. They get money from insurance companies when they sell insurance - therefor...