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Do you also disagree it is [Islam] the fastest growing religion in the US Well, not sure about the UK, but in the US, Islam is only the 9th fastest growing religion. Here are the growth rates according to adherents.com: 1. Deist - 71.1% per year 2. Sikhism - 33.8% per year 3. New Age - 24.0% per ye...

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its not an oxymoron... you're avoiding the question ill break it down in simple terms for you north africa, either jew, aethiest, or christian muslim armies move in, with their armies, swords, leaving a huge trail of blood shed... you're given 2 choices, convert or pay the jizya if you dont take ne...

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The presence of Muslim armies and the expansion of the Muslim empire territorially should not be confused with the spread of the religion. i never studied asian history... i cited north africa Ok - no problems. We'll take it for granted that Islam spread not by the sword in asia (as there weren't a...

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Concerning Muslim conquest of Egypt and the Christians in Egypt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coptic_Orthodox_Church_of_Alexandria From Chalcedon to the Arab conquest of Egypt Copts suffered under the rule of the Byzantine Eastern Roman Empire. The Melkite Patriarchs, appointed by the emperors as bo...

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yes because ill let someone called Jill and wikipedia tell me about the history of my country.. shafique, wiki is not a credible source, or a valid referance, any credible educational institution would fail you if you quote wikipedia as a referance. it makes sense that when prosecuted, the copts ga...

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the Quran clarifies that a day for God is not the same as 24 hours on earth (one rotation of the earth). 'Yaum' = 'day' is also used for a 'period' or 'aeon' or 'epoch' or even 'stages'. OK, but why then does the Quran say in some instances that earth was created in 6 periods and in another in 8 pe...

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in regards to teh question you keep asking me, i asked you for scriptures. You want me to quote from scripture that Christians believe only those who believe in Christ's sacrifice go to heaven? Really? Ok, not a problem (sorry, I'm just a little surprised that I'd be asked to look up the reference ...

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If you can get the references for 8 periods me, I'll look them up and comment. 41: 9 Is it that ye deny Him who created the earth in Two Days ? 41: 10 He set on the (earth) Mountains standing firm high above it, and bestowed blessing on the earth, and measured therein all things to give them nouris...

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you see shafique, the credibility of what a christian wrote, to me, is as credible as the qur'an... his argument is all fine and dandy, but it is a cynical close minded view that has about 0 credibility, because who is he to judge.. Actually, my intention in posting what the Christian wrote was to ...

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i would go dig up some books and detail what actually happened, but the UAE restricts intellectual material of the sort (surprise surprise) they also restrict all the websites that detail scripture by scripture from the qur'an all its contradictions (no surprise there either) do you have a proxy by...

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Shafique, I wasn't referring to forced conversions so much as I was talking about the spread of Islamic law and emipire. That happened through military conquest. I'm currently reading a number of books on this period - fascinating stuff. There were different waves of territorial conquests - somethi...

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Valkyrie I would also add that many converted for the same reasons that all the Indonesians, Mongols etc converted - they were attracted to the teachings of Islam. That the Muslim rulers made the conditions conducive to the preaching of Islam is not in doubt. Those who wished to remain Christians et...

shafique

Hello everyone, I've been a keen reader of this part of the forum (Im a northener as you can see) and an avid reader of historical, religious books. Can you please cite or list the name of book or references from where you have cited your replies. I would love to follow up the readings I have seen ...

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Thanks a lot Shaf for the tons of info; sure have a lot of reading for the coming summer, ...err..nice to see I'm not alone in peeking at the Assasins (sect). Me too fascinated by them as well as Ismails and Sufism. Im into history of Sub-continent and Central Asia as of now. Cheers.. For history o...

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Ch 19: 64. (The angels say:) "We descend not but by command of thy Lord: to Him belongeth what is before us and what is behind us, and what is between: and thy Lord never doth forget,- 65. "Lord of the heavens and of the earth, and of all that is between them; so worship Him, and be consta...

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ebionics - I'll see if I can get someone to translate for me (however we can't watch You Tube at work, where all my arabic speaking friends are). Could you ask the man to post on here in English and show us why Christianity is more logical than Islam etc? Does he believe all non-Christians are going...

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as i mentioned, he would only talk through his site - there's millions of dollars for his blood - several "fatwa's" are out by muslim cleriks that have told muslims killing him is considered halal... he wouldnt risk being traced on any other website his link is stated in the description o...

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Agree on you about William Dalrymple, he's a must read....also I'm extending my search up north to Pakistan/Afghanistan to Central Asia...It's been fascinating reading this histories. Appreciate your offer, but would love to buy them one by one, these are treasures to be read over and over again......

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burton, Yes, I have KA's biography of the Prophet, pbuh. I think it is an excellent book - well researched and balanced. I recommend it. No, I haven't read the other book 'Islam and the West'. I meant also to recommend Edward Said's book 'Orientalism' - it is a classic now and well worth reading for...

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he's fluent in english, if you do speak to him directly.. Cool - I'll look up the you tube link tonight and will e-mail him. The first question I'll ask is : "Do you believe all non-Christians are going to hell as per the Bible?" I'll start a thread if/when he answers. Cheers, Shafique

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ebonics - I went to You Tube, but could not see the e-mail.

Could you post it here or PM me with it.

Cheers,
Shafique

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=st71AwzeLAA&feature=related footage of muslim attacks on coptic clerics, and the burning of a church... when have you ever heard of christians moving in on a mosque and setting it alight, bashing nuns and clerics in their way... Did you hear of a little thing call...

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Thanks ebonics. It's a shame you have so much hatred that you feel it necessary to condemn a whole religion and accuse it of being intolerant. I'm shocked that you argue it is ok to kill people over their religion if you are 'civilised' to declare a war against them first. At least you don't say thi...

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You may not realise it ebonics, but you are doing yourself a dis-service. Can you not see the irony in the fact you are happy to justify the invasion Muslim lands and killings of Muslims and yet bemoan the fact that Egypt was conquered by Muslims. I am still happy to engage in you, but will await a ...

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41.10 refers to 4 days and these include the 2 days of 41.9 Where does it specify the 4 days include the previous mentioned two days? The context does - they are both talking about the earth. so clearly, the spreading out of the earth is not saying that it is flat but that it is an extended land ma...

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I find it strange that freza stops posting after being presented with Biblical quotes, then ebonics appears on the scene. Hmmm

Nah - couldn't be.

shafique

ebonics - tell us the truth, you really love Islam don't you?

Cheers,
Shafique

shafique

See - I knew we'd see eye-to-eye in the end!

'What did the Romans ever do for us?'

'We are the Knights who say Ni!'

.... always look on the bright side of life....

Cheers,
Shafique

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ebonics - do you have shares in youtube?

shafique

ebonics wrote:maybe i own youtube

why dont you stop asking me questions, and answer the questions at hand dear sir?

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