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No, he says that these separate events do not constitute a co-ordinated plot to exterminate Christianity. Fail.

Epic fail.

What we can’t say, however, is that there is a co-ordinated Islamic plot to exterminate Christianity..

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Shafique

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Doug Saunders writes on Huffpost about his book 'Myth of the Muslim Tide' in which he debunks the cherished myths that rayznack/eh and his fellow anti-Muslim posters like to present as fact. The article gives the facts behind point, showing why it is a myth - but for space, I have only listed the my...

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If women are being told by the Imam or those in their society that they have to shroud under loose sheets of cloth (face showing or not), while the men walk around in t-shirts and shorts, that is oppression because it is an unfair double-standard. In the examples given, the women have made the choi...

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In fact, the discussion was not limited to religious freedom or not, since some people still can't agree whether the niqab and burka are cultural or religious forms of dress. Some posters have consistenly quoted women who choose to wear the veil and are clear that it is not a requirement of Islam. ...

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In Dubai I did see far more men dressed in the kandoora and shalwar kameez compared to in Western countries where I've seen couples walking together. It seems many men enjoy the freedom of dressing in a more "Westernized" way while the women do not. I think that in the same way you notice...

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How about:

The recent exchange of views has been passionate and largely free of trolling posts - a refreshing change from many threads of late.

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Shafique

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Another one -

Bora's recent avatars are scary!

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Shafique

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^EMZ choosing to delete 'prayers for the 2,976 who died on 9/11' is pretty tasteless and disrespectful - I mean, why delete the words highlighted in the quote Nucleus actually made? Prayers for the 2,976 who died on 9/11, and to the 49,644 Afghans and 1,690,903 Iraqis and hundreds of thousands of Pa...

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rayznack wrote:But we can agree the situation of Christians today is no different from Jews a few centuries prior..

Who is 'we'? Certainly not the author in the OP.

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Shafique

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Thanks Bora - the BBC didn't actually give details about the video. This morning a journalist they interviewed actually said he hadn't heard about the video until he went to the scene of the rioting in Benghazi, and then was told there that the video was the cause (he thought it was to do with 9/11)...

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The opening line in the article is a question, not a statement. :roll: (and the answer to the question is 'no') I refer you my first post above - and consider whether you're one of the conspiracy theorists he's referring to or not. But hey, if you and your blogger friends want to believe that there ...

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Ah, I see our resident hater has decided to challenge a myth. Let's see whether reality matches his take on this myth - this is what the author says about point 5: Actually, Muslims change their cultural views dramatically when they emigrate. For example, 62% of American Muslims say that "a way...

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On this particular point, I know Doug Sanders is completely right and your desperate search for evidence to spin to justify the myth is failing quite badly. But good effort though

Facts, not spin.

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Shafique

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You're the one who's making the argument that there is a co-ordinated conspiracy against Christians that's comparable to historic anti-Semitic persecution. You have to explain how then there are more anti-Semitic incidents in the US today, over 1000 per year, compared to the examples in the OP which...

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A consultant on the film, Steve Klein, said the filmmaker is concerned for family members who live in Egypt. Bacile declined to confirm. Klein said he vowed to help Bacile make the movie but warned him that "you're going to be the next Theo van Gogh." Van Gogh was a Dutch filmmaker killed...

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So Shaf are you saying that I have not indeed seen men in t-shirts and shorts, tank top and shorts, and swim trunks next to their wives/sisters/mothers who are covered to a much higher degree - This is only my biased perception of the reality? I used the words 'another perspective' and 'the norm wo...

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DDS makes a good point - and I took it to be a rhetorical suggestion. I doubt whether anyone would support an Iranian's decision to hypothetically remake a hate film, but yet we have a few who support the making of this particular hate film. But I'm glad to see that most people aren't supporting the...

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^In relation to Iran - their reaction to 'Fitna' by Wilders shows the way to react to these silly films by the rabid anti-Muslims: Geert Wilders' film failed to generate much controversy in Iran although the government did express its outrage on the day of its release and conservative websites compl...

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Loonwatch has photos of a demonstration in Benghazi: Libyans Protest and Condemn Attack on US Consulate in Benghazi Libyans take to the street to condemn the killing of US Ambassador Christopher Stevens and his colleagues. They want to point out that such behavior is not representative of Libya, Isl...

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And the story just gets weirder: The cast of the film say they have been deceived - with the offensive parts of the film being dubbed in post-production, and one even saying they are going to sue the filmaker (but given he's in hiding, she'll be lucky!) The story of the Muhammed movie which sparked ...

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The link that Nucleus gave in the other thread is relevant here too, I think: http://mondoweiss.net/2012/09/amb-christopher-stevens-appears-to-have-been-killed-in-premeditated-al-qaeda-attack.html My argument is that religion is part of the solution rather than part of the problem. Misusing religion...

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Thanks eh - that is an interesting article indeed. He speaks a lot of sense and makes his points well - the whole piece should be read, as it does not only talk about Copts. There is room for disagreement over the causes and implications of some of the points raised, but overall it was a good articl...

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Thanks for your opinion. It is interesting that you seem to be the only one making excuses for the film. But for the record, the condemnation by the Copts, Israelis, US etc etc is about the hate film that was made under false pretenses - and the youtube video is actually just the trailer for the fil...

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Your spin is weak ray and can't disguise the fact that those who share your hatred of Islam and Muslims to the extent that they defend this film, are just an extremist minority. Nakoula even appears to be a convicted criminal and not the Israeli-American he pretended to be: US authorities now say th...

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:D Commiserations. However, anyone who's worked in London and used the tube there - this is a pretty tame story about public transport. :D :D FWIW - when I found the metro to be working fine when I was last there and having read the reviews, I knew that buying a normal ticket would get me into carri...

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Max Blumenthal has an insightful piece on the people and motives behind the anti-Islam film. It was/is a scam. It shows the links between Nakoula and other extremist anti-Muslims in America and what they wanted to achieve by this film. It is the equivalent of knowingly shouting 'fire' in a crowded t...

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I personally smiled when I heard what the Coptic women did, and I don't think they are misguided either. Berating Sadek for fueling the flames of sectarian violence, the women took off their heels and began beating him over the head. “If anything happens to a Christian in Egypt,” one of them shouted...

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He certainly has more than 10 times the hatred. However, the fact still remains that those supporting this film by the fraudster seem to be only hate-filled (and mostly Christian) extremists. The Israelis, Copts and pretty much everyone else, including most posters on this forum, don't agree with th...

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A moving account of a family's loss in the US - I thought I'd share it. In light of the terrorist attack on the Sikh Gurdwara in Oak Creek, Wisconsin Sen. banana Durbin of Illinois chaired a Senate hearing on hate crimes. The hearing revolved around what is being done to chronicle, catalogue and res...

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The rhetoric is heating up (yet again) - and sabres are rattling. Iran unveils 'indigenous' drone with 2,000km range Iran has unveiled what it says is a new "indigenous" long-range unmanned drone capable of flying over most of the Middle East, state media report. The Shahed (Witness) 129 h...

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