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Shaf, you can hardly compare wearing high heels to wearing a burka. I can, and I do. ;) As I said, I'd oppose anyone calling for the banning of high heels because they thought it was oppressive and a form of mild torture to women. (And high heels can cause real harm - and not just from the obvious ...

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European - I think comb-overs are ridiculous and a complete joke in this day and age, and in whatever country. It is certainly a crime against fashion. I think the sign of a tolerant society is to protect the rights of those who choose to dress, act, worship as they see fit. This article from a coup...

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I seem to recall discussing with you before and you saying it was a cultural thing more than a religious thing. Now it seems you are claiming it is a valid interpretation of Islam. It still is a cultural thing - if you read the article I linked to above it says so. It also has a number of British M...

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Here let me quote from the article - it some people may not wish to click through and read it: Does she feel it might be perceived as such? "No woman I know who wears a niqab is doing it to make a huge point. It's a personal, spiritual conviction. And I know that the niqab is a virtuous option ...

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I wonder what it is about a piece of cloth a woman chooses to wear that frightens/threatens young eh? Tell me you have more than the one case from a few years ago to back up your desire to stop women from choosing to wear the burqa! So far, nothing. And thanks for proving yet again, that selective ...

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Tell me you have more than the one case from a few years ago to back up your desire to stop women from choosing to wear the burqa! It appears the answer is 'no'. Thanks for demonstrating whataboutery arguments eh,- most fascinating. I'm sticking the British line on this point though: Whether one ag...

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Shaf, there has to be a reason why the veil is being worn by more women in Mauritius in recent years. I think it might be down to the same issues raised by the British young women in the article - an outward expression of their faith. This is something alien to Mauritian Muslim culture - as the par...

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Not alarming or threatening, no. I think it's the equivalent (right now) of the fashion amongst teenage girls to go vegan/vegetarian, to be honest. I expect some will 'grow out' of the phase - whilst others will continue to cover up. The general trend though is for women to wear the fuller headscarf...

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I have no reason to believe your going to be right this time round, eh. Relatively few women wear the veil and even fewer try and get away with the sillly defence in the OP from a few years back. If your paranioa was true, your blogger friends would have picked up at least one other case worldwide s...

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So Shaf, you think they'll grow out of it and it is just a passing fad? Some will, some won't. I do agree that how the mother dresses will have a big influence on how the children view on the issue. I'd expect them to also be told the reasons why mum is dressing differently and why she chose to wea...

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My point simply is that I haven't yet seen a good reason to criminalise women who want to wear a veil. An example from Australia a couple of years ago is clutching at straws, and the view that some of the women are oppressed seems to be a harsh reason to stop others from choosing to wear the veil. I...

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I'd vote against a burqa ban as it goes against British principles. I'd imagine that if went to a referendum, and the issue was debated by both sides, we'd see that the majority of British people will side with British values and those who share the xenophobic views of the likes of the EDL will be i...

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I totally concede that you think you would win the referendum. I disagree and believe that the majority of fellow Britons would vote to not ban the veil for the very reason given in the Evening Standard - it just isn't the British thing to do. Many may not agree with the reasons, or with the veil it...

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Yes, I do believe that the majority of British people would not vote to criminalise ladies who choose to wear the veil. At least European and I agree that the politicians won't be voting for it anytime soon - even though he/she has constructed a conspiracy theory to explain it. ;) As I said a few po...

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In December last year, the leader of the UK indpendence party, Nigel Farage was interviewed and the subject of the burqa ban was brought up. He said he was not in favour of a ban despite it being in the manifesto of the party at the last election. Political commentators (such as those on Newsnight a...

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Ooh, is that your latest conspiracy theory?

The above interview actually is after your 'recent issue' in Australia took place.

Cheers,

Shafique

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And my main complaint still remains that the religious reasons some people are using don't seem to come from the Quran or Hadith, so where do women get the idea that covering all of their skin makes them closer to god or more virtuous? You may not understand why they make the choice, and it may wel...

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I'm not the one saying this - it was on This Week that it was mentioned just last week or the week before. To be honest, I didn't read about it at the time he made the u-turn. But it is interesting that he's choosing to alienate people you insist form the majority of Britons, and who I think are a m...

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You believe it does harm. I disagree. Your objection stems from not agreeing for the reasons women choose to cover up. I think banning is a poor alternative to education and persuasion that they are causing harm to themselves. Yes, it is a value judgement they are making on what is considered modest...

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You're in a stroppy mood today. UKIP do a u-turn so as to alienate the majority of Brits and you're in denial. Sigh. I did say in the OP Of course, the ' you're not really British and we know better ' brigade will brand Farage a traitor etc. I guess I should have said we'd see some rather weak 'what...

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I did:

I guess I should have said we'd see some rather weak 'whataboutery' arguments.

Try and keep on topic in future.

Cheers,

Shafique

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^We can at least agree that I'm supporting a woman's right to choose and opposing criminalising the choice. And whether we agree or disagree with the choice is irrelevant when considering the principle of protecting freedoms: Whether one agrees with the choice London Muslims make (when they do choos...

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No surprises for me in this new study - but it does drive a nail through the arguments of the anti-Muslims who want to believe what Jihadwatch etc tell them about Islam. Article and study are self-explanatory Study: Muslim extremists not looking for world domination By Adam Levine Muslim extremists ...

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You do understand what the word 'Myth' in the thread title is referring to, don't you?

Cheers,

Shafique

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I don't believe it is a myth I know. Hence my opening sentence. You are entitled to your beliefs about Muslims. I'm just pointing out that reality and anti-Muslim spin from Jihadwatch et al aren't on the same planet. In fact, you should really only be discussing with Berrin. You cancel each other o...

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I agree. It exceeded my expectations by far (and I imagine a lot of others too)! Now for the closing ceremony, a bit too late for me to watch live though :( . (On the political front, I see that Boris Johnson is now looking good as a future leader of the Tories... and I hope that Romney sees fit to ...

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:D You just had to go and quote stats, didn't you! :D You do realise that the original article is about the Laramans (you even quote the definition - which the book you've said you've read says is 'two-faced' rather than 'multi-faceted' - a slight difference, you'd agree). Laramans only superficiall...

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^ Well, I thought I did explain that my sister-in-law's is indeed aware that Islam does not require a veil and has the example of all the other family members to relate to (her husband has 3 sisters and a mother who don't wear the veil - i.e. my cousins and aunt, as well as the wider family.) Howeve...

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:D You can see that I answered your post there eh - and pointed out how you were trolling that forum too. You started that thread, then created the nick 'backspace' to reply to a post of mine! (I should have been flattered). Your friend Jude lost the argument, and is no longer posting on the forum a...

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Thanks for clarifying Nucleus that you were not blaming the victims. That is how I read it as well. Many studies also show that the majority of rapes around the world aren't reported, and that many (if not the the majority) are committed by men known to the woman - typically male friends, boy friend...

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