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Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Interesting website (the second link you gave is broken). This thread should really be in the religion forum - and I'm sure it will be moved in due course. I think the Imam has picked up on some very good points - and to me too the links he makes note of are quite obvious when you read all the proph...
by shafique
Apr 08, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

US Trained Iranian Terrorists - Hersh

Seymour Hersh in the New Yorker has revealed that the US has been training Iranian MEK terrorists (and they are defined as terrorists by the US government itself since 1997). I particularly liked the dry humour of the last bit of Juan Cole's post.. so I quote it again up front: As Sheila Musaji poin...
by shafique
Apr 08, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: US Trained Iranian Terrorists - Hersh
Replies: 1
Views: 1166

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Interesting post Nucleus. Thanks. I agree that when the time of the fulfilment of the signs of Dajjal come it will be pretty obvious - as obvious as Arabs competing with each other to build tall buildings. The other signs of the Dajjal are as obvious - such as the donkey which will carry people acro...
by shafique
Apr 09, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Technology that he will ride is here doesn't mean he is here. Actually, the Hadith are clear - all people will use Dajjal's transport, including the believers. However, the Hadith do not say that this will be the transport that Dajjal will use.. but rather that this is 'Dajjal's transport' - i.e. i...
by shafique
Apr 09, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Ok I'll try to follow this thought. So he will return, how? Hadith say he will decend down, did he decend down. So by example of Elijah I presume decend down could mean something else, so it doesn't happen exactly the same way. It could mean reborn. Right? What else I'm missing. Let's leave the Had...
by shafique
Apr 09, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Nucleus. You believe that Jesus was the messiah for the Jews don't you? You believe that Yahya was a prophet as well. Well, if you look up what the Bible says about Yahya fulfilling the prophecy of the second coming of Elijah, and then ask other Muslims whether we believe in this too (that all proph...
by shafique
Apr 09, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Well, it appears that you wish to sidestep the issue of how Yahya fulfils the prophecies in the OT as Christians and Muslims believe. The point is that in his case, he fulfilled a prophecy of a Prophet who supposedly was taken bodily to heaven and was prophecised to return - and the Jews take this p...
by shafique
Apr 09, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Nucleus, these issues are quite straightforward and use logic, and straighforward Hadith and Quranic verses. I don't see any point in me joining another forum to discuss the specific (and to me clear) issues raised in this thread. We can have a civil discussion and agree to disagree with different v...
by shafique
Apr 10, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Some obscure prohpecy in Bible is not our reason. To me the Prophet Yahya and the reasons why the Jews rejected their Messiah is very relevant in a discussion about hadith about Dajjal and the Messiah etc. I understand you don't want to tackle the simple point - and I fully understand why. You ask ...
by shafique
Apr 10, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

First let me state that my aim is not to offend or argue senselessly. If you feel offended or think I am over-stepping the mark, please let me know - that is not my intention. I sometimes do state things to make people think - but I aim to be respectful and to at least explain my logic. What the sta...
by shafique
Apr 10, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Important part so what we do? First we take heed to what the Prophet said in the prophecies about the latter days and look at what errors those earlier people committed and ensure we don't repeat them. Practically, the Prophet also gave us the key to understanding the Dajjal and avoiding his/its in...
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Nucleus, the point is that the article actually argues that Yahya DID fulfil the prophecy - but in this case it says it only PARTIALLY fulfilled the prophecy. Read it again - they are merely arguing that they believe Elijah will indeed descend, but this time with Jesus. Jesus himself says in the Bib...
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

Well, each does have to make their own choices. One can choose to dismiss the many Hadith which the Prophet, pbuh, made about the Dajjal, latter days and the state of the Ummah at that time. The prophecies about the Dajjal are quite explicit and have come true - and yet I find it a little odd that w...
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Dajjal - Surah Al Kahf

As protection from the Dajjal (anti-Christ) a number of Hadith report that the Prophet, pbuh, said that Muslims should recite the first 10 verses of Ch 18, Al Kahf. Some also add the last 10 verses. These verses can either be a magic talisman, or could be verses that Muslims should reflect on and im...
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Dajjal - Surah Al Kahf
Replies: 5
Views: 4910

Re: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!

I haven't ignored or dismissed any of the Hadith. We started with agreement about the Hadith about the Donkey being a metaphorical description. I've maintained that view when it comes to the Dajjal itself, but haven't agreed with you that the explicit Hadith about the Muslims and Jews resembling two...
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai General Chat
Topic: Dajjal? Judea Christian Civilization!
Replies: 30
Views: 4234

Romney vs Obama then?

With the news that Santoram is suspending his campaign, I guess that means that it will be Romney vs Obama in November then. I can't help think that the Republicans don't want to win the election - and hence have put a candidate that is 'expendable'. Or am I being a little 'tin foil hat' with this c...
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Romney vs Obama then?
Replies: 4
Views: 1292

Re: Romney Vs Obama Then?

Thanks Bora - interesting insights there. Whilst the interest in the elections may pick up closer to November, so far its not just big news world wide. I can't help but contrast it with the buzz around the last election.. but then things were different on a number of levels. No incumbent, Obama and ...
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Romney vs Obama then?
Replies: 4
Views: 1292

Re: Romney Vs Obama Then?

I managed to get a copy go game change ... Will watch and get back to you.

Cheers
Shafique
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Romney vs Obama then?
Replies: 4
Views: 1292

Israeli Arabs - Not a Threat

Haaretz has run a very good piece today about a misleading and wrong article published by Daniel Pipes in the Washington Times in which he libels Israel Arabs as being a threat to Israel. Pipes is a conservative and in this case has chosen hype over reality. Daniel Pipes' attack on Israeli Arabs is ...
by shafique
Apr 11, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Israeli Arabs - Not a Threat
Replies: 3
Views: 1265

Re: Israeli Arabs - Not a Threat

Kanelli - indeed it is.

The irony is that Israeli Arabs are both Muslim and Christian. Many of the prominent Palestinian politicians and activists are Christians - such as Hanan Ashrawi.

But Pipes was probably assuming Arab=Muslim in his piece.

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Apr 12, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Israeli Arabs - Not a Threat
Replies: 3
Views: 1265

Re: Dajjal - Surah Al Kahf

Dajjal is described in Hadith as the anti-Christ - by definition. The Messiah will fight the Dajjal etc. Berrin, you are right that the Dajjal is against religion etc - but by the same token, the Messiah's mission is to bring people back to religion and 'fight' for the side of religion. As for Surah...
by shafique
Apr 17, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Dajjal - Surah Al Kahf
Replies: 5
Views: 4910

Re: Hadith Of The Day

Yes, an excellent hadith, thanks for the reminder. It reminds me of the Quranic verse 16.125: Invite (all) to the Way of thy Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching; and argue with them in ways that are best and most gracious : for thy Lord knoweth best, who have strayed from His Path, and who rece...
by shafique
Apr 17, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Hadith of the Day
Replies: 8
Views: 10786

Re: Breivik Goes To Trial

The Guardian reports that the far right, anti-Muslim groups are on the increase as Brievik went to trial: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/apr/14/breivik-trial-norway-mass-murderer?CMP=twt_gu The line he's taking that it was 'self defense' is a bizare twist for me - admitting to the bombings and...
by shafique
Apr 17, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Breivik goes to trial
Replies: 20
Views: 2247

Re: Dajjal - Surah Al Kahf

Berrin,

Here's a link of Hadith relating to Dajjal, with references:

http://muttaqun.com/dajjal.html

The long one from Sahih Muslim describes the Messiah coming and fighting the Dajjal, and also there are the Hadith about Surah al Kahf being recited as protection.

Cheers,

Shafique
by shafique
Apr 17, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Dajjal - Surah Al Kahf
Replies: 5
Views: 4910

EDL - laughing stock

Have a look at #creepingsharia on Twitter - very funny tweets there.. such as: http://p.twimg.com/AqmhDZLCIAA4ZgX.jpg This Islamification is happening at all levels of society. #creepingsharia http://pic.twitter.com/r7BT4nJ5 Here's the background: How Twitter users turned the tables on the English D...
by shafique
Apr 17, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: EDL - laughing stock
Replies: 2
Views: 1192

Re: Breivik Goes To Trial

:shock:

He spent a year playing video games in practice - that tells me he isn't the sociable type. He's probably got mommy issues too. Shame we have fewer internet psychologists around these days. ;)

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Apr 23, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Breivik goes to trial
Replies: 20
Views: 2247

Re: Breivik Goes To Trial

:)

I think I might be going through troll withdrawal symptoms. :) :)

Another nugget from Brievik:
“But because I am a militant nationalist, I am being subjected to grave racism,” he said. “They are trying to delegitimize everything I stand for.”

:shock:

Cheers,
Shafique
by shafique
Apr 24, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Breivik goes to trial
Replies: 20
Views: 2247

Re: Israeli Ambassador Clash Over Story About Arab Christian

Here's a piece on this story on Loonwatch, including a CBS video on the ambassador's intervention: http://www.loonwatch.com/2012/04/bob-simon-lays-the-smack-down-on-israeli-ambassador-michael-oren/ Here's a link to the video on the CBS site (on the intervention): http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?...
by shafique
Apr 24, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Israeli Ambassador Clash Over Story About Arab Christians
Replies: 6
Views: 1721

Re: Want To Visit A Christian Born Again Church In Dubai

Atheism is one way to break down the barrier of religion between people, as there are no different sects of Atheism... Atheism is not about human ego. To me this sounds exactly what a Theist would say... eg "[My religion] is one way to break down the barrier between people, as my religion teac...
by shafique
Apr 27, 2012
 
Forum: Philosophy and Religion Forums
Topic: Want to visit a Christian Born Again Church in Dubai
Replies: 17
Views: 14026

Re: Michelle Obama

You say you support choice, I do. Given that the women making the choices are clearly stating that they understand it is not an obligation under Islam, I can't agree with you that in supporting these women I'm propagating 'false ideas'. I also disagree with your view of where veiling comes from. It...
by shafique
Sep 08, 2012
 
Forum: Dubai Politics Talk
Topic: Michelle Obama
Replies: 60
Views: 6791
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